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    Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
    there is only one creator/God any other belief system is panthiesm, and I don't really care if you gamble or not with your soul, like the man says " ya pays your money and ya takes your chances".. I am not going to tell anyone what to believe or disbelive that is none of my business, all I say is whatever you believe or disbelieve you better be right.
    Again, I suggest you read what I posted as I have clearly stated I neither believe nor disbelieve but you keep talking about whether I do or don't.

    Pantheism is belief the universe and god are the same.

    "there is only one creator/God"

    What is God? If you could explain that reasonably I would then know what it is I'm supposed to gamble on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    You see Christians are not going to be able to convince you God exist....
    Problem is you can't even tell me what god is because you yourself do not know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Problem is you can't even tell me what god is because you yourself do not know.

    I'll give it a shot.....The Creator is made of Energy, Light and sound. As we are made in the same image and likeness of that which created uh.........EVERYTHING!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I'll give it a shot.....The Creator is made of Energy, Light and sound. As we are made in the same image and likeness of that which created uh.........EVERYTHING!
    Now that's pantheism. God as universe doesn't require belief.

    And it leads to the question, if the creator is made up of things, who made the creator?

    Don't get me wrong here, I'm not criticizing those of faith, I'm just saying I don't have it, don't know what to put it in. If you have faith, treasure it, but don't try to make it something it's not, which is reason.

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    Regardless.....All matter is made of energy. Matter is made of atoms each that give off light and sound. Protons and Nuetrons. Each striving to create more of each other From the very first created. Each attaching themselves to others in very different and complex ways. As in learning and dupilcating one another. Energy is the ability to make something happen.

    Wherein seems all things look the same from this vantage point.
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    MMC your post reminded me of the God particle (Higgs boson). It's a fascinating topic but this thread is probably not the place for me to go into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    MMC your post reminded me of the God particle (Higgs boson). It's a fascinating topic but this thread is probably not the place for me to go into it.


    Thats alright bro.....like he says. Tell me All your Thoughts On God!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Regardless.....All matter is made of energy. Matter is made of atoms each that give off light and sound. Protons and Nuetrons. Each striving to create more of each other From the very first created. Each attaching themselves to others in very different and complex ways. As in learning and dupilcating one another. Energy is the ability to make something happen.

    Wherein seems all things look the same from this vantage point.
    Laws of thermodynamics says energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.

    But we're discussing the universe now, not god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Laws of thermodynamics says energy and matter cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed.

    But we're discussing the universe now, not god.
    And I bet you didnt think the Universe was alive either? First there was the Atom. Then came the laws of thermal-dynamics.....

    A molecule can be uniquely divided into a set of atomic volumes. These volumes are divided by a series of surfaces through which the gradient vector field of the electron density has no flux. Atomic properties such as atomic charge, dipole moment, and energies can be calculated by integrating their corresponding operators over the atomic volume.

    Two atoms are bonded if their atomic volumes share a common interatomic surface, and there is a (3, −1) critical point on this surface. A critical point is defined as a point in space where the gradient is zero. A (3, −1) critical point is defined as a critical point at which two of the eigenvalues of the Hessian matrix at the critical point are negative, while the other eigenvalue is positive. In other words, a bonding critical point is a first-order saddle point in the electron density scalar field. A bond path is the line along which the electron density is a maximum with respect to a neighboring line. Along the associated virial path the potential energy is maximally stabilizing.

    There is no questioning of bonding paths. The existence of bond paths are not questioned but the stabilizing energy derived from it is.

    Hence Energy Already There!!!!!
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    "Hence Energy Already There!!!!!"

    So say the laws of thermodynamics. And hence energy came before atoms. And this has what to do with telling me what you know about god?

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