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    that is a decent point
    you shouldn't need religion to be a good person

    i read a quote the other day that got me thinking went something like this:

    in the absence of religion good men will do good things but only religion can make good men do bad things

    in other words some of the very religious people will shun or kill others just because they think it is their duty if it weren't for religion they would be live and let live

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elibe View Post
    that is a decent point
    you shouldn't need religion to be a good person

    i read a quote the other day that got me thinking went something like this:

    in the absence of religion good men will do good things but only religion can make good men do bad things

    in other words some of the very religious people will shun or kill others just because they think it is their duty if it weren't for religion they would be live and let live
    It's not fair to blame religion for people acting like $#@!s (except in very extremist cases). Bad people will do bad things, but religion explains it away, it gives justification.

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    but sometimes those people really believe they're doing a good thing

    don't just think of it as christians in the us i'm talking about muslim suicide bombers or whoever

    immoral people will do bad things no matter what

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    Like homophobia. It's almost impossible to rationalize homophobia without religion. But it's in the Bible, so it's very easy.

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    yes you nailed it

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    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Burns View Post
    Like homophobia. It's almost impossible to rationalize homophobia without religion. But it's in the Bible, so it's very easy.
    Homophobia is a made up term to smear political opponents. Moreover, homosexuality has been looked down upon across many different cultures and throughout human history. There is no necessary connection to religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Burns View Post
    It's not fair to blame religion for people acting like $#@!s (except in very extremist cases). Bad people will do bad things, but religion explains it away, it gives justification.
    So does politics. Should we do away with politics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    So does politics. Should we do away with politics?
    Ahh touche. That is a good counter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Burns View Post
    Yes actually. Life is devoid of spiritual meaning, save for what we ascribe to the blankness. I guess it ties in to my belief in god; a concept we invent to save us from the crushing emptiness of reality.
    What you mean is that you believe that life is devoid of meaning altogether. There is no "spiritual" meaning. OK. You can't actually live that way but thank you for being honest.
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