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[Cigar]

It's how politicians win, yes, by presenting to you the voter what they think you want to see. They win, you lose.

The guy I voted for tried to present what I wanted ... is that ok?

[Chris]

The guy I voted for tried to present what I wanted ... is that ok?

Sure, it's what they all do. Too bad for you you bought it.

[bladimz]

That was kinda funny

Yeah, it was.

[bladimz]

Our (and any) president is only a figure head. This is kind of the reason that what they promise during their campaigning doesn't come to fruition during their presidency. Then they answer to a higher power. And it isn't God.

[Paperback Writer]

Our (and any) president is only a figure head. This is kind of the reason that what they promise during their campaigning doesn't come to fruition during their presidency. Then they answer to a higher power. And it isn't God.

So you're saying he doesn't order drone kills off his secret assassination list in spite of what your NYT says, or that he's not responsible for the direction given to his departments such as the CIA, NSA, or DOJ? He just gets paid to golf and watch CNN. If that's the case who does order these things and can you tell them to stop right away?

[bladimz]

So you're saying he doesn't order drone kills off his secret assassination list in spite of what your NYT says, or that he's not responsible for the direction given to his departments such as the CIA, NSA, or DOJ? He just gets paid to golf and watch CNN. If that's the case who does order these things and can you tell them to stop right away?

That's exactly what i'm saying. Our president doesn't make the calls. He's the figure-head, the one they hired to take the heat. The big decisions are made by the large monied players. Our presidents don't decide when to go to war; that's decided by big special-interest groups.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Now that we got the handicap covered ... let's get some Angry Black Women on-board

They'll probably spend all their time nagging the Black men.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Do we even have angry black women on this forum?

Obviously not, or Cigar would suffer posting fright.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Need some recruiting ... ?

Maybe Michelle Obama will have some time after 2016

She'll be too busy nagging Barry and making sure he keeps his eyes off other women.

[Paperback Writer]

That's exactly what i'm saying. Our president doesn't make the calls. He's the figure-head, the one they hired to take the heat. The big decisions are made by the large monied players. Our presidents don't decide when to go to war; that's decided by big special-interest groups.

Then why bother voting or having political discourse if its all written in the stars for you?