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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    No, UN
    the link is to breitbart.

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    Or not.....

    Murder rates have gone down in NYC? Source?
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agravan View Post
    Well, there goes that discussion. Since the article is from Brietbat, that's the only excuse libs need to disregard it. Hell, if Breitbart came out and said the sky was blue and the sun rises in the East, the left would automatically deny the allegations because of the source.
    Our "open-minded" liberals are just soooo tolerant of other ideas.
    there has to be a legitimate source for a discussion. and your idea of a "discussion" is high fiving other righties and hurling insults.

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    and once breitbart is a link, the tendency is to know that the information is either an outright lie or a distortion…. not on Alyosha's part, but on the site.
    Because jillian can determine the validity of any article just by where it originates from. Breitbart = liars, Huffpo, NYT = Gospel
    Democrats believe that "politics is war by other means." And they are at war with America, with common sense and even common decency. Those who would mount an effective opposition had better have a high tolerance for slime, slander and abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Standby, I'm sure @jillian is confirming the validity of the report as we speak, and will be along posthaste with an apology.
    the links to the UN don't have any information regarding gun laws.

    the correlation was made by the liars at breitbart.

    i'll be waiting for *your* apology.

    again, homicide rates have gone down in NY with its fairly strict gun control laws. and in australia and in many other countries with restrictive gun laws.

    we'll await your explanation.

    thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    there has to be a legitimate source for a discussion. and your idea of a "discussion" is high fiving other righties and hurling insults.
    And your idea of discussion is denying anything and everything that contradicts what "you know to be true" even when proven.
    Democrats believe that "politics is war by other means." And they are at war with America, with common sense and even common decency. Those who would mount an effective opposition had better have a high tolerance for slime, slander and abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    the link is to breitbart.
    And Breitbart credits the UN,

    from breitbart's link;

    Maps made by the U.N. office on Drugs and Crime (circa 2007) clearly show that where gun ownership is highest in the world, crime is lowest on a per capita basis.For example, here is the map for gun ownership:
    Which Alyosha supplied a link to.

    Come on girl get a clue !!
    It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    the link is to breitbart.
    @jillian

    read more carefully the first link I posted was to the UN
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    Libs don't need no stinkin' research,

    and to expect that they'd actually use any sort of valid logic to think these things out, for themselves,

    is just a Bit Much.

    Thinking and/or logic isn't exactly their Strong Suit...
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    Government does not "give" us rights. Its purpose is to protect the God Given rights we already have by reason of being human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    the links to the UN don't have any information regarding gun laws.

    the correlation was made by the liars at breitbart.

    i'll be waiting for *your* apology.

    again, homicide rates have gone down in NY with its fairly strict gun control laws. and in australia and in many other countries with restrictive gun laws.

    we'll await your explanation.

    thanks in advance.
    Thanks in advance for doing the appropriate research which shows both guns and homicides in their data reporting pages. It doesn't show correlation, I posted correlation in the subject title.

    Correlation is not causation hence why I didn't say, "Lots of guns lowers crime" in this thread.

    But thanks for trying to take the thread off topic with logical fallacies. It would be nice, for once, if you would address a post directly instead of the link or poster. Conversation is why we all come here and you can't have that when you do this.
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