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    Quote Originally Posted by Agravan View Post
    January 10, 2014 Establishing a U.S. State Religion

    By Fay Voshell

    In direct contradiction of the First Amendment, which forbids the establishing of a state religion, the Obama administration is busily doing just that. Meanwhile, it is attempting forced conversion of the reluctant, all the while targeting Christians and Orthodox Jews as people who are continually violating the establishment of religion clause.
    Just what religion is our current administration establishing in direct violation of the Constitution of the United States?
    It is establishing the faith of secular statism, a religion currently characterized by the tenets of radical progressivism. Statism is rapidly becoming the only faith in America allowed to operate with complete freedom.
    Remember the announcement at the 2012 Democrat National Convention that "government is the only thing we all belong to?"
    Even when listened to in , it is an alarming statement, as it implies the State has ultimate power over the individual, who becomes merely part of the collective. In fact, the phrase can be seen as a short creedal statement summarizing the beliefs of an American state religion. It is but a short step from you all belong to the government to you all must do what the government decrees to you must, forsaking your own faith, bow before the god of the State.
    Government enforcement of the religion of statism, which includes the belief in the supreme higher power and authority of an absolute State, is nowhere more apparent than in the case of the Little Sisters of the Poor. Whatever the eventual fate of the sisters, their case is an example of our administration trying to force state religion down the throats of Christians.
    The group of nuns has devoted itself to the care of the elderly for the last 175 years -- a generally thankless task, as they are dealing with human beings who are physically debilitated and most often mentally frail as they come to the end of their earthly existence.
    The nuns have preferred to do their works of mercy unheralded, as Christ commands.
    But now the quiet sisters have taken a stand, refusing to obey the Affordable Health Care mandate to include abortion-inducing drugs as part of the insurance policies offered to the orders' employees. Such provisions violate the nuns' religious beliefs concerning the sacredness of life from conception to death. In fact, the order would not exist if the sisters did not believe in the sanctity of life from conception until old age and death.
    According to Beverly Monk's report on Citizen Link, the nuns have been told they themselves or their order won't have to offer abortion-inducing drugs in health care plans, but they must sign "a government form that delegates the action to a third party."
    In other words, HHS and the DOJ are essentially saying to the nuns, "You yourselves don't have to do it, but you have to allow someone else to do it on behalf of your order." That's legal casuistry at its most serpentine. Monk also reports the DOJ demands [...] "the Little Sisters must sign a 'self-certification' form claiming eligibility for an exemption from the mandate, or pay millions in fines [...]."

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    Sheer paranoid RW nonsense!

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    Statism doesn't even meet the minimal criteria of a religion.
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    Secularism is no religion. Screw you with your nonsense.

    Seriously, and USA has a state religion, The Believer. If you are not a believer in many states you cannot run for the office. It is pure discrimination. It goes against the constitution. But you don't protest about that.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    If religion is the attitude and feeling of one who believes in a transcendent controlling power or powers... statism is a religion.
    "Of all men's miseries the bitterest is this: to know so much and to have control over nothing." -Herodotus



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    Quote Originally Posted by iustitia View Post
    If religion is the attitude and feeling of one who believes in a transcendent controlling power or powers... statism is a religion.
    only in a very vivid fantasy world...


    words have meaning…

    re·li·gion

    noun\ri-ˈli-jən\: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
    : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
    : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

    not being rabidly anti-government does not mean one defies government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    only in a very vivid fantasy world...


    words have meaning…

    re·li·gion

    noun\ri-ˈli-jən\: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
    : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
    : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

    not being rabidly anti-government does not mean one defies government.
    religion- an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

    god- one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldly affairs

    deity- divine character or nature, especially that of a supreme being

    So basically the Supreme Court.
    "Of all men's miseries the bitterest is this: to know so much and to have control over nothing." -Herodotus



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    Quote Originally Posted by iustitia View Post
    religion- an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

    god- one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldly affairs

    deity- divine character or nature, especially that of a supreme being

    So basically the Supreme Court.
    no. the supreme court is a constutionally established governmental entity.

    it is not a religion because you don't like the court and think you should substitute your judgement for that court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    no. The supreme court is a constutionally established governmental entity.

    It is not a religion because you don't like the court and think you should substitute your judgement for that court.
    Their word is the word of god. Unchallengeable. Infallible. Inerrant. Follow, obey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iustitia View Post
    Their word is the word of god. Unchallengeable. Infallible. Inerrant. Follow, obey.
    Nope. Try again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iustitia View Post
    Their word is the word of god. Unchallengeable. Infallible. Inerrant. Follow, obey.
    actually? in terms of our legal system?

    until whatever decision the court makes is reversed by a later supreme court or modified in later cases… yes, you do follow. that is the legal system we have.

    you don't get to wake up in the morning and decide not to follow the law. neither can i. well, you can, but you'll be violating the law and subject to whatever penalty (civil or criminal) exists for the law you violated.

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