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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What are you talking about, what evidence.....the Church has come out before and stated they had writings and letters from Romans and or people that were citizens of Rome. Guess you will have to ask them for the evidence since they are the ones holding what they say they have, but no one has seen.
    When has the church done this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    No doubt they have some amazing things in their archives.
    No letters from Roman soldiers about Jesus of Nazareth though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    "Far from having given us the Scriptures, IT IS YOU [Catholics] WHO HAVE HIDDEN them from us; it is YOU who BURN those who teach them, and if you could, YOU WOULD BURN [all] the Scriptures themselves."--D'Aubigne, History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century, b. 18, ch. 4.


    Hmmmm, another D' talkin smack bout that Church.
    I'm sorry D'Aubigne felt that way but that's not what I asked for.
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    They have all kinds of writings, epitsles that were never accepted. Books by others that they did not accept. There were writings from the Sadduceses, The Pharisees, The Essence writings they had from the Discovery in Cairo. Not the Dead Seas Scrolls.

    After the death of Christ on the cross, and in the centuries before 419 A.D., there were many, perhaps hundreds of writings, and some forgeries that had to be sorted out and decided upon as to if they were canonical (canon = rule or official list) or not. The early Catholic Church was scattered out in communities over a wide geographic area. Many people in these communities liked the Shepherd of Hermas and it was very popular and read as if it were scripture. On The Shepherd of Hermas; in the document The Muratorian Fragment, approx. 170-180 A. D., it is written: "was written quite recently in our own time by Hermas, while his brother, Pius, was filling the chair of the Church of the city of Rome". ( Pope Saint Pious I apparently occupied the chair of Peter approx. 140 - 155 A. D. ). Origen ( 185-232 A.D. ) believed the author of The Shepherd of Hermas to be the same Hermas referred to by Saint Paul in Romans 16:14. The Epistle of Barnabus was accepted as Scripture by Clement and Origen but not by Saint Jerome. While both of the books; the Shepherd of Hermas and the Epistle of Barnabus, were read and accepted by many Early Church communities they are not found in today's Bibles

    http://catholicevangelism.org/h-canon1.shtml

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    Need More? Or do you Need a Catholic Priest to tell you himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Need More? Or do you Need a Catholic Priest to tell you himself.
    You haven't given me anything regarding letters from Roman soldiers that mention a Jesus of Nazareth. That's probably because no such letters exist. Now that that's cleared up I'll leave you with your anti-Catholic conspiracies. They are of no interest to me.
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    Yeah.....I can't produce the letters. So go ask a $#@!ing Cardinal or Bishop. But it does show about those other writings that your azz didn't know about.....huh? Don't forget that part as you didn't think they existed either.
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    Ooooops.....Check that. Found some of the letters they have discovered written by Romans. Some predating Christ and others not. These aren't from the Catholic Church tho.

    http://heritage-key.com/rome/letters...-world-history



    Moreover the brews have letters, writings, from all around the time before Christ and after. So I guess it just isn't the Romans. Nor the Catholic Church.

    These have been found without the assistance of the Catholic Church. Only a fool would believe the Roman Catholic Church didn't have any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Ooooops.....Check that. Found some of the letters they have discovered written by Romans. Some predating Christ and others not. These aren't from the Catholic Church tho.

    http://heritage-key.com/rome/letters...-world-history



    Moreover the brews have letters, writings, from all around the time before Christ and after. So I guess it just isn't the Romans. Nor the Catholic Church.

    These have been found without the assistance of the Catholic Church. Only a fool would believe the Roman Catholic Church didn't have any.
    Uh, letters written before Christ mention Christ? Wow that's amazing! Check that fo' sho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah.....I can't produce the letters. So go ask a $#@!ing Cardinal or Bishop. But it does show about those other writings that your azz didn't know about.....huh? Don't forget that part as you didn't think they existed either.
    Which letters didn't I know about? The ones that mention Jesus of Nazareth don't exist.
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