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    The Republicans definitely haven't cracked down on the illegal immigration problem either, but they may be doing that more for cheap labor than for votes like the Democrats.

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    Still I would say they are doing more than what the left is. E-verify and some measures. Definately not enough. Still Illinois and specifically Chicagoland area, is nothing but a safehaven for illegals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Still I would say they are doing more than what the left is. E-verify and some measures. Definately not enough. Still Illinois and specifically Chicagoland area, is nothing but a safehaven for illegals.
    You're probably right that the Repubs have done more than the Dems across the country. I've read that the Obama administration has deported more than Bush's but in both cases that's just a drop in the bucket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Ah.....I was going with what MC's last statement was concerning the left in Illinois. Yes the right exist. Southern and Central Illinois. When have you ever heard me say anything about I believe big buisness or the GOP has my interests at heart? One thing is for certain if the right had been in charge. I doubt we would be one of the highest taxed people in the country. Buisness, property, personal.....U name it!
    Perhaps but we're discussing giving a privilege to illegal aliens. Like I said, the phony right (i.e. the GOP) is not interested in cracking down on illegal immigration or in making life uncomfortable for migrants. The liberal right aims to replace you just like their comrades on the liberal left.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    On a somewhat related note, and I forgot the case but it's somebody or another (white chic) suing a college in Texas that's going to the supreme court that's going to re-challenge the affirmative action policy.

    Ironically this same college that reversed it's affirmative action policy to a class policy with exceptional results - but then recently went back to an affirmative action.

    Ok - I googled it, here's the case (my memory is $#@! anymore):

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ZJWR_blog.html
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    I'm aware of this case. It's been in the works for a while now. This keeps coming up because the SC is too chicken $#@! to definitely rule on race based preferences.

    I have no problem with a class based affirmative action policy. I do have a problem with hypocrisy. Racial discrimination is wrong or it's not. We need to choose.
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    "Definitely" should be definitively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I'm aware of this case. It's been in the works for a while now. This keeps coming up because the SC is too chicken $#@! to definitely rule on race based preferences.

    I have no problem with a class based affirmative action policy. I do have a problem with hypocrisy. Racial discrimination is wrong or it's not. We need to choose.
    I totally agree. Affirmative action is racial discrimination, you will not convince me otherwise. Mathematically, logically, morally - it's racial discrimination.

    To be honest, I've recently been exposed to the class concept and it makes sense. From what I've heard, there are more rich kids in private colleges than poor kids even though those poor kids may otherwise qualify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    I totally agree. Affirmative action is racial discrimination, you will not convince me otherwise. Mathematically, logically, morally - it's racial discrimination.

    To be honest, I've recently been exposed to the class concept and it makes sense. From what I've heard, there are more rich kids in private colleges than poor kids even though those poor kids may otherwise qualify.
    Liberals and others engage in all sorts of mental gymnastics to rationalize their hypocrisy but it doesn't fly with me either. It is what it is (i.e. racial discrimination).

    The class concept has been accepted and even recommended by some conservatives for a while now. I think many liberals agree as well that it will better meet the goals of affirmative action programs and do so with much less controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Perhaps but we're discussing giving a privilege to illegal aliens. Like I said, the phony right (i.e. the GOP) is not interested in cracking down on illegal immigration or in making life uncomfortable for migrants. The liberal right aims to replace you just like their comrades on the liberal left.

    Yes.....despite all that BS. The matter is a simple one. Do you see any other form of Government running anything. Looks like it is a left/right paradigm to me. There is no inbetween and there is none that any can look to that would bring some other type of change. Nothing outside the box that will change anything up.

    As far your liberal right and your conservative left is concerned. First, I would say they look to you sheep first to get a response. Because they already know the majority of you cannot even stand on your own two feet, and that nothing will be done about anything you's talk about. Except for that talk.
    Last edited by MMC; 03-04-2012 at 04:23 AM.

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