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    Isolationism, Interventionism, and Non-Interventionism

    Foreign policy is one of the big issues of our day, perhaps second only to the economy in most Americans' minds. There are many different philosophical approaches on how to tackle foreign policy, but they can all be summed up in three main categories: isolationism, interventionism, and non-interventionism. There's a lot of ignorance and confusion as to what these three terms mean, however, and I'd like to clear up that confusion.

    Isolationism vs. Non-Interventionism:

    Wikipedia defines isolationism as the following:

    Isolationism is a category of foreign policies institutionalised by leaders who asserted that their nations' best interests were best served by keeping the affairs of other countries at a distance. Most Isolationists believe that limiting international involvement keeps their country from being drawn into dangerous and otherwise undesirable conflicts. Some strict Isolationists believe that their country is best served by even avoiding international trade agreements or other mutual assistance pacts.
    The article goes on to clarify something very important:

    Two distinct and unrelated concepts that are occasionally erroneously categorised as Isolationism are:

    1. Non-interventionism – is the belief that political rulers should avoid military alliances with other nations and to avoid interfering in wars bearing no direct impact on their country. However, most non-interventionists are supporters of free trade, travel, and support certain international agreements, unlike isolationists.


    2. Protectionism – Relates more often to economics, its proponents believe that there should be legal barriers in order to control trade and cultural exchange with people in other states.
    This is where the most confusion resides. Often, people in American politics mistake isolationism for non-interventionism, and vice versa, but the two are completely different ideologies. Under non-interventionism, there is still trade, travel, and international cooperation. Under isolationism, there is no interaction with other countries whatsoever.
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    Ron Paul define libertarianism as non-interventionism...

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    Wikipedia

    Isolationism, Interventionism, and Non-Interventionism
    _____________________________________________

    Common Denominators

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    Isolationism is a category of foreign policies institutionalised by leaders who asserted that their nations' best interests were best served by keeping the affairs of other countries at a distance. Most Isolationists believe that limiting international involvement keeps their country from being drawn into dangerous and otherwise undesirable conflicts.

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    Right. Who's one of those on here? I'm all about interacting with countries via trade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Wikipedia

    Isolationism, Interventionism, and Non-Interventionism
    _____________________________________________

    Common Denominators

    You don't even know what common denominator is, do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Isolationism is a category of foreign policies institutionalised by leaders who asserted that their nations' best interests were best served by keeping the affairs of other countries at a distance. Most Isolationists believe that limiting international involvement keeps their country from being drawn into dangerous and otherwise undesirable conflicts.

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    Well, Code is Non-Interventionist, not Isolationist. As for the others, we'll wait for them to speak up, but I can guarantee Peter is not isolationist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    You don't even know what common denominator is, do you.
    I don't own a hair splitter either.....Chris. I get to the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Well, Code is Non-Interventionist, not Isolationist. As for the others, we'll wait for them to speak up, but I can guarantee Peter is not isolationist.
    I have had several conversations with Pete....and Code....and Chloe....Maine in his defense thanks the posts...doesn't really opine. And I am using YOUR given definition of isolationism there....if you'll note. And @Peter1469, student Arrow, has repeated this exact policy of our "nations' best interests were best served by keeping the affairs of other countries at a distance." Pete argues we keep the affairs of other countries at a distance, perfect example being Syria or Afghanistan. then what was this...again....YOUR provided definition...."Most Isolationists believe that limiting international involvement keeps their country from being drawn into dangerous and otherwise undesirable conflicts."

    Why...the 4 I mentioned.....are frickin posterchildren for limiting international involvement keeping our country from supposed danger and undesire. Pete arguing with me that our global footprint needs to shrink. That we aren't the world's policeman. Sorry...you started this thread asking me who is an isolationist....and using your definiton, I named 4 that will proudly boast that policy defined above. Pete is the f'n mirror image of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    I don't own a hair splitter either.....Chris. I get to the point.
    What's the point of your obfuscation?
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