Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
What a bunch of BS. 'Liberal project of egalitarianism and administrative efficiency,' huh, where'd that come from. I wish people like Michael Brendan Dougherty would stick to what they know. Religious liberty is a liberal value, liberty means freedom to be religious. And what the heck is our 'monocultural elite class?' Anyone know? Arizona legislators chose to enforce one religion, the veto had nothing to do with egalitarianism, had lots to do with money and hopefully for some our constitutional freedoms.
Within the confines of your religion you can be as un-free as you like, but outside that place other values and laws take precedent.
Medicare is fundamentally a single payer system and I don't hear of religious conflicts there, do you? As a Catholic, I can tell you quite simply, few if any today do not use contraceptive methods. Contraception is merely a distraction in a complex topic. I wonder how many could live in a world in which sex was only about the propagation of the faith, the original Catholic concept. As far as the state's so called ideology, the purpose of the state is to support (and sometimes enforce) policies that work for all people and not write or interpret law based on religious canon.
Wanna make America great, buy American owned, made in the USA, we do. AF Veteran, INFJ-A, I am not PC.
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." Voltaire
junie (03-12-2014)
Last edited by kilgram; 03-08-2014 at 02:05 PM.
WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.
Peter1469 (03-08-2014)
Alyosha (03-09-2014)
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Alyosha (03-09-2014)
Punished. Is it some kind of difficult word for you? Or what? Hitting in the hands, arse or other methods used by the teachers in their schools, and read my last edited answer, I improved the answer that you were answering with this.
Being religion compulsory. If you didn't attend you didn't pass the course.
There was no $#@!ing metaphor.
Last edited by kilgram; 03-08-2014 at 02:18 PM.
WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
OK, thanks, I just wanted you to be specific. Hitting your hands etc, yes, I experienced that too: I recall one frail little nun, shorter than me even back then, who used a pingpong paddle to rap your knuckles. First time she took me in the supply room, grasped my hand in hers and raised the paddle I said you don't want to do that. She look puzzled, but the paddle came down hard as she could right across the knuckles of her own hand. Told you so, I told her, and now you know what it feels like. Oh it was a big to do, my parents called and words were exchanged about the little troublemaker. In the end absolutely nothing happened. The nuns had no power, but what parents permitted them. So it wasn't really the nuns, kilgram, but your parents raising you as they saw fit.
And I'm sure the nuns nor priests hit the hands, arse or anything of your parents.
The reason I want you to be specific, concrete, instead of abstract and metaphorical, is truly they have no power. As the anarchist Godwin so eloquently articulated.
Don't get angry. Sometimes it's necessary to cut through the fog of words. They have no power, they have influence, and mostly through your parents as a kid, and then through what they taught you to believe in later life. It is nothing like the power of the state.
My experience in Catholic and secular/public school was this, generally. While the religious school would punish you it usually amounted to extra schooling, staying in during recess or after school for more lessons. The public school punished you by sending you home, suspending you, if not kicking you out altogether, which, while it was a reward to kids, did more damage in the long run.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler