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    God comes only in Human form

    The design of medium is important to serve the purpose. Thehuman being has the required design suitable to preach the divine knowledge.Therefore, the human form is selected by God. In order to get circulation ofair, the design of fan is important for the current to serve the purpose. Ifthe current enters the radio, you cannot get the circulated air. Similarly, ifGod enters the inert objects, the purpose for which He came down is not servedsince stones can neither speak nor receive the service of devotees directly.Stones have their own design and purpose like building a house in which thehuman incarnation can live.

    You wish that the current should enter the radio and give theair by some super technology. When fan is available, no fool wishes and no fooldoes like that. Even if a fool wishes, it will not be done since doing it bysome super technology is more foolishness. Similarly, you should not desirethat God should enter the statue to receive your service and guide you bydivine knowledge by using His superpower. Even if you are rigid, God is not afool to do it, when a natural and alternative facility is available for suchpurpose.

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    The term Avatar is appropriate.
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    Lord comes in Human form to preach and uplift the human souls

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    The Lord is giving experience to us in every walk of life about His existence. But, such experiences become weak in course of time due to the petty minds of the human beings. The human mind always takes logic and interprets such experiences as mere accidental situations. Therefore the faith of the theists is not strong. The human preachers are unable to answer the doubts of these human beings and this further weakens the faith. Therefore, the Lord comes down in the form of a human being as the divine preacher.

    Thus, there is a bare neccesity for such incarnation. Veda says ‘Yat Saakshat Aparokshat Brahma’, which means that Brahman comes down before the eyes of the human beings. Gita also says ‘Maanusheem Tanumaasritam’ which means that Brahman comes down as a human being. But the human body follows the rules of the nature and is not different from any other human body. The shirt of a king is not different from any other shirt. It can be cut with the help of a blade like any other shirt. The speciality is in the king but not in the shirt. If the Lord wishes, He could take the human body, which has neither birth nor death. It can be a divine body, which appears before all the human beings at different places and preaches, in different languages in the sametime. But, such creation of divine body means that the Lord is going beyond the rules of the nature, which are created by the Lord only. The Lord has such divine power, which can go beyond this nature.

    Such divine power is called ‘Maya’ and the Lord who is the possessor of such Maya is called ‘Mayee’ as said in Gita “Mayinam tu Maheswaram”. But no sensible administrator will break his own rules when a work is possible within the set up of the administration. There is no need of doing that work by breaking the adminstration. The Lord can achieve the same result by taking several human bodies at a time and from generation to generation. In such way, the administration is not interferred. Therefore, the Lord comes in several human incarnations at a time in each generation and the Viswarupa represents this. In Gita, the prayer on the Viswarupa mentions about several feet, faces and also several stomaches (Aneka Baahoodara Vaktra Netram). Therefore, the present picture of Viswarupa is wrong.

    It means only the photo of a group of preachers existing at the same time. The word “Udara” (stomach) is not justified in the present picture of ‘Viswarupam’, which is again another mis-perception leading to misinterpretation.

    Therefore, it is very very clear that Datta means only the human incarnation that came down to preach the true divine knowledge. But, due to natural egoism and jealousy the human beings do not recognize the Lord in the form of a human being. Only very few believed Krishna as Lord. Only very few believed Shirdi Sai Baba as God. When Sai was alive there were few devotees only and no body thought of a temple for Him. Even Butee wanted to build a temple for Krishna only who was a past incarnation. Now there are millions of devotees and lakhs of temples for Sai baba because He is no more a present incarnation. He who wins over the three types of egoism caused by the three qualities (Trigunas) is called as ‘Atri’. He who conquerred jealousy (Asuya) is ‘Anasuya’. Such a devotee only can capture the human incarnation. This is the sense of the statement that Atri and Anasuya attained Datta.

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    Avatar: The World Master; the saviour of the human race;one is always present in the physical realm guiding the human races.

    Yet when you speak of man you started with that the human man seeks to intrepret thru logic. This is not so for the chela.

    Avidya: ignornace of truth; a lack of enlightenment, the unenlightened.

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    no kidding he comes in human form.. what did you expect Yoda
    The eastern world, it is exploding, violence flaring bullets loading. you are old enough to kill , but not for voting, this whole crazy world is just to frustrating, and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, you don't believe we are on the EVE of DESTRUCTION.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Avatar: The World Master; the saviour of the human race;one is always present in the physical realm guiding the human races.

    Yet when you speak of man you started with that the human man seeks to intrepret thru logic. This is not so for the chela.

    Avidya: ignornace of truth; a lack of enlightenment, the unenlightened.

    Tell me what you know of Shamballa.....Seeker.
    Suppose some parents requested the management of a school to provide a park for waiting. The management is capable of doing so and it is the earnest desire of some parents. Suppose, there are some parents who do not like the facility of the park. They should not object those parents who want to use the facility of the park. They should also not oppose the management in the construction of the park. It is the duty of the management to inform the availability of the park so that any parent who ever desires to use that facility can use it apart from those parents who requested for it. If this general information is not provided to all the parents, some may ask the management regarding their negligence in informing the parents. Similarly, God comes in human form based on the prayers of some top most devotees to give direct experience. Through the human body the experience is not only direct but also complete.

    Such experience is not possible in the formless worship or in the worship of the statues. Such worship of formless God and statues is only a representative worship. It is just like worshipping the statue of the king and not the direct worship of the king. When you break a coconut near the statue, you can offer it by waving the hand and then eat it yourself. But when we break the coconut before the actual king, the king is fond of the pieces of coconut and will eat the entire coconut. When you want to avoid such inconvenience, you need not worship the human incarnation. You break the coconut before the statue and eat it yourself. But there is a fellow who wants to really offer the coconut to the king. He is pleased only when the king eats that coconut. He feels happy by seeing the happiness in the face of the king, while eating that coconut. What right you have to object such person? What right you have to object the king to come directly to eat that coconut for the happiness of a real devotee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
    no kidding he comes in human form.. what did you expect Yoda
    The human incarnation is never accepted in past, present and future because the egoism and jealousy of the human beings are never crucified. When God is fully revealed in the human incarnation, people reject Him due to egoism and jealousy. If God is hidden in the human incarnation, then also they will reject by treating Him as an ordinary human being with negligence. Therefore, the human incarnation should neither express God fully nor should hide the God completely. He should express the God to that extent only, which can remove the negligence but should hide God to that extent, which cannot raise the egoism and jealousy.

    The behavior of the human incarnation is thus a balance point of the mixture. The human incarnation itself is a balanced mixture of the unimaginable God and physically perceivable human body. The unimaginability or inexplicability of the God, called as Brahman or Jehovah or Allah, which is expressed through the silence of Buddha. Buddha kept silent about God to indicate that God is beyond the words and imagination. Some followers immediately misunderstood Buddha as an atheist and the most pitiable point is that He Himself is one of the ten incarnations of the Lord.

    You can neither reach God directly due to His unimaginable nature, nor recognize Him when He comes to you in human form due to negligence. The final result is only total loss in any case. I pity this unfortunate humanity in this ultimate spiritual point. This makes the souls to rotate in the cycle of creation continuously for the entertainment of the Lord forever and perhaps that is the intrinsic wish of the Lord!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dattaswami View Post
    Suppose some parents requested the management of a school to provide a park for waiting. The management is capable of doing so and it is the earnest desire of some parents. Suppose, there are some parents who do not like the facility of the park. They should not object those parents who want to use the facility of the park. They should also not oppose the management in the construction of the park. It is the duty of the management to inform the availability of the park so that any parent who ever desires to use that facility can use it apart from those parents who requested for it. If this general information is not provided to all the parents, some may ask the management regarding their negligence in informing the parents. Similarly, God comes in human form based on the prayers of some top most devotees to give direct experience. Through the human body the experience is not only direct but also complete.

    Such experience is not possible in the formless worship or in the worship of the statues. Such worship of formless God and statues is only a representative worship. It is just like worshipping the statue of the king and not the direct worship of the king. When you break a coconut near the statue, you can offer it by waving the hand and then eat it yourself. But when we break the coconut before the actual king, the king is fond of the pieces of coconut and will eat the entire coconut. When you want to avoid such inconvenience, you need not worship the human incarnation. You break the coconut before the statue and eat it yourself. But there is a fellow who wants to really offer the coconut to the king. He is pleased only when the king eats that coconut. He feels happy by seeing the happiness in the face of the king, while eating that coconut. What right you have to object such person? What right you have to object the king to come directly to eat that coconut for the happiness of a real devotee?
    When looking at the physical realm. That physical plane of the material. Then you are correct. Not so in any of the other planes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    When looking at the physical realm. That physical plane of the material. Then you are correct. Not so in any of the other planes.
    God comes down in every generation to explain personally face to face

    The best identity mark for God – in human form is dislike for fame.

    God comes down in every generation, - to explain personally since
    Explanation face to face has – its own merit of clarity always.
    Souls differ from each other, - Madhva established this point.
    In minute samskaras souls differ – so that no soul resembles another
    In all minute attitudes, like – two electrons differ in spin quantum number.
    You cannot be equal to Arjuna – in all minute details of your samskaras.
    Hence if you are in the place of Arjuna, - you might have asked some more
    Different questions based on your – minute channels of attitudes.
    If any soul is in place of Arjuna, - Gita will certainly differ here and there.
    Therefore, every soul needs – explanations personally from God,
    But the exposure to God is in – higher levels of spirituality only.

    Till the higher levels are attained, - His assistants cater to lower levels.
    In the lower levels, masses exist – and very few exist in higher levels.
    Shankara argued with top scholars, - He did not give public speeches,
    Krishna preached Gita only to Arjuna, - He did not preach in meetings,
    He did not invite sages to attend – so that all can hear Gita.
    The best identity mark for God – in human form is dislike for fame.
    In upper world, He is already – bored with fame and majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dattaswami View Post
    God comes down in every generation to explain personally face to face

    The best identity mark for God – in human form is dislike for fame.


    God comes down in every generation, - to explain personally since
    Explanation face to face has – its own merit of clarity always.
    Souls differ from each other, - Madhva established this point.
    In minute samskaras souls differ – so that no soul resembles another
    In all minute attitudes, like – two electrons differ in spin quantum number.
    You cannot be equal to Arjuna – in all minute details of your samskaras.
    Hence if you are in the place of Arjuna, - you might have asked some more
    Different questions based on your – minute channels of attitudes.
    If any soul is in place of Arjuna, - Gita will certainly differ here and there.
    Therefore, every soul needs – explanations personally from God,
    But the exposure to God is in – higher levels of spirituality only.

    Till the higher levels are attained, - His assistants cater to lower levels.
    In the lower levels, masses exist – and very few exist in higher levels.
    Shankara argued with top scholars, - He did not give public speeches,
    Krishna preached Gita only to Arjuna, - He did not preach in meetings,
    He did not invite sages to attend – so that all can hear Gita.
    The best identity mark for God – in human form is dislike for fame.
    In upper world, He is already – bored with fame and majority.
    Do you believe God touched Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan?

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