Rise of the Nazi Party..

[Germanicus]

I apologize if you find the term 'nazi' to be racist or offensive. That is by no means my intent. I only use the term because it has been made into an actual word, and most people seem to know that German National Socialist Party as the 'Nazi Party'. Nazi is a racist war propaganda term similar to 'Jap' and was an uninspired mocking of the way Germans speak. Western Capitalists were making fun of how Germans say National Socialist. Na-Zi was not a term that the National Socialists used to refer to themselves. I am sure that you are aware of all this but if I have cause offensive I apologize. I am not trying to be racist or offensive.

THE REASONS FOR HITLERS RISE TO POWER

1- The failure of the Weimar Republic to solve the post-war and depression problems

2- The depression - foreign loans stopped - exports were blocked by rising foreign tariffs - unemployment was colossal - democracy had apparently failed - alternatives might succeed.

3- German mentality - respect for power - very amendable to rigid discipline - liked regimentation - uniforms - theatrical display - had little experience in or taste for democracy - general hopelessness in outlook - sense of National defeat and disgrace - desire to blame someone - mass of Germans content to swim with the tide of Nazi success and be lead by those with most energy.

4- Hitler gave the Germans hates and hopes - hate for Versailles, Communists, Bolsheviks, Jews - they believed the Jews to be responsible for inflation - hopes of a reborn, proud and powerful Germany with living space for all.

5- The personality of Hitler - had a fanatical belief in his mission - had ruthlessness - oratory power of mass hypnotism - a man of great political intuition, of magnetic personality, with ability to inspire personal devotion.

6- The weakness of his opponents who possessed no leader with personality - the middle class were demoralized by inflation and depression.

7- The Right, the Riechswehr, industrialists and Nationalists looked with favour on Hitlers openly nationalistic and militaristic policy - they intended using him for their own ends, but he was using them for his. They supported him as an effective force against Communism and a protection of their interests ans property.

8- Communists were held responsible for the war and disorder afterwards - were considered anti-German and friends of Russia - they began the violence the Nazis improved on.

- The New Compendium of Modern History / George Bohman, B.A. / Shakespeare Head Press Sydney
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Now I am sure that most are well aware of all of this..

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Now I do not at all agree with some of the above opinion, however, the above does contain facts that many seem unaware of. It is important that we understand the reasons behind the rise of the National Socialist Movement so that we can prevent something similar from happening at any point in our future.

You may have noticed that the modern age that we exist in right now has many parallels with Germany under The Treaty of Versailles. The whole of Europe is facing challenges in relation to Democracy as European elections are producing no clear majority and at times absurd cobbled coalitions. Many in Europe are now considering the fact that alternatives to modern democracy may be well worth serious consideration.

We have also seen a rise in Nationalistic sentiment spread across the European continent in recent years due to the harsh austerity that has been forced on European populations due to the cold actions of the IMF Bank. The austerity is hurting the masses and there is a great deal of anger and rage being directed at the IMF and Bretton Woods Institutions.

Also, unemployment is again a colossal problem facing Europe since the USA caused the GFC. Youth unemployment in particular has become somewhat of a social emergency for Europeans and no genuine solutions have emerged to this serious problem.


Do you agree that things seem to be turning full circle?

Do you have any solutions?



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edit- Again, I apologize for the use of the term 'nazi'. I honestly do not mean to be racist, prejudice, insulting or offensive in any way. I only use the term because somehow it does seem to have become an actual word that people associate with the National Socialist Movement.
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Solutions?



edit- What was that? Did reality just bend? Did you guys feel that?

[Green Arrow]

Hitler and his Nazi Germany have always fascinated me.

[Germanicus]

Hitler and his Nazi Germany have always fascinated me.

My Father is a huge fan of German technology during the period leading up to WW2 and during. His interest is probably the reason that I looked into 'nazi' history.

Unlike my Father I am not particularly interested in technology. ( he is a mechanic ) I know more than him about the politics of the time. My Dad is a bit of an amatuer historian due to his interest in The Industrial Revolution and how it impacted the world.

The 'Nazi' are a topic that he and I have bonded over. I have him covered on the politics at this stage but if I want to know about a certain German tank from the time I know that he will be able to tell me about it.

But yeah, I am kind of shocked that people seem to know so little about such an important time in world history and surprised that there is not a great deal more interest in the National Socialist Movement. Taking an interest does not make you a so-called 'nazi'.

[Bob]

THE REASONS FOR HITLERS RISE TO POWER

1- The failure of the Weimar Republic to solve the post-war and depression problems

2- The depression - foreign loans stopped - exports were blocked by rising foreign tariffs - unemployment was colossal - democracy had apparently failed - alternatives might succeed.

3- German mentality - respect for power - very amendable to rigid discipline - liked regimentation - uniforms - theatrical display - had little experience in or taste for democracy - general hopelessness in outlook - sense of National defeat and disgrace - desire to blame someone - mass of Germans content to swim with the tide of Nazi success and be lead by those with most energy.

4- Hitler gave the Germans hates and hopes - hate for Versailles, Communists, Bolsheviks, Jews - they believed the Jews to be responsible for inflation - hopes of a reborn, proud and powerful Germany with living space for all.

5- The personality of Hitler - had a fanatical belief in his mission - had ruthlessness - oratory power of mass hypnotism - a man of great political intuition, of magnetic personality, with ability to inspire personal devotion.

6- The weakness of his opponents who possessed no leader with personality - the middle class were demoralized by inflation and depression.

7- The Right, the Riechswehr, industrialists and Nationalists looked with favour on Hitlers openly nationalistic and militaristic policy - they intended using him for their own ends, but he was using them for his. They supported him as an effective force against Communism and a protection of their interests ans property.

8- Communists were held responsible for the war and disorder afterwards - were considered anti-German and friends of Russia - they began the violence the Nazis improved on.

While I agree with the above, it sure has me believing that the USA also was hooked by FDR pretty much the same way.

[Ethereal]

It is a great lie that Hitler and Nazi Germany were somehow different from the American and British state. They were virtual mirror images of one another. Churchill was a racist mass murderer, a scoundrel of the highest order. His list of crimes against humanity are too numerous to list.

FDR was an abominable tyrant as well. His bullying and terrorizing were infamous. He banned the private ownership of gold, he interned thousands and thousands of innocent Japanese-Americans, he threatened sitting Supreme Court justices, and he blatantly violated the Presidential term limits codified in the US Constitution, for starters. It has always mystified me why FDR was allowed to essentially reign as an emperor. Truly an awful human being.

Now, this is by no means a defense of Hitler, who was a rotten socialist mass murderer. It is an attempt to dispel the nonsensical propaganda of WWII, which has filled the heads of Americans and Brits for decades. We are constantly told in government indoctrination centers about the valor and honor of FDR and Churchill, but the truth is that they were despicable war-mongering psychos. It's such a sad thing that they are celebrated as heroes. They should be exhumed and tossed into a sewer.

[Germanicus]

It is a great lie that Hitler and Nazi Germany were somehow different from the American and British state. They were virtual mirror images of one another. Churchill was a racist mass murderer, a scoundrel of the highest order. His list of crimes against humanity are too numerous to list.

FDR was an abominable tyrant as well. His bullying and terrorizing were infamous. He banned the private ownership of gold, he interned thousands and thousands of innocent Japanese-Americans, he threatened sitting Supreme Court justices, and he blatantly violated the Presidential term limits codified in the US Constitution, for starters. It has always mystified me why FDR was allowed to essentially reign as an emperor. Truly an awful human being.

Now, this is by no means a defense of Hitler, who was a rotten socialist mass murderer. It is an attempt to dispel the nonsensical propaganda of WWII, which has filled the heads of Americans and Brits for decades. We are constantly told in government indoctrination centers about the valor and honor of FDR and Churchill, but the truth is that they were despicable war-mongering psychos. It's such a sad thing that they are celebrated as heros. They should be exhumed and tosses into a sewer.

Utter nonsense. And I assume that you believe that to be intelligent? (: Or convincing? (: Confusing?


Thhe differences between the Capitalists and the National Socialists could not be more stark in almost every way.

Take the issue of rationing for example. What is the National Socialist position? What is the Capitalist position? (:

That should get you started.

Nonsensical? Look in the mirror buddy. You are a joke.

edit- And why wouldnt you be? look at your disgusting coward degenerate society build on childish lies and idiocy. Its ridiculous.

When USA falls can you imagine? HA! Oh my $#@!ing. This is a $#@!ing clown show.

You CIA guys in every movie, on every tv show, in every media, and not just US media.

Conan OBrien for example.... HA!

Saturday Night Live. HAAA! $#@! me. Everyone from the west is going to look and feel very stupid very soon. And many will be embarrassed and we may even squeeze a little shame from the likes of Conan and Jon Stewart and Colbert and you band of capitalist propagandist clowns. I almost choke when our media makes a big deal about Chinese 'STATE media'. or says "Government mouthpiece".

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

[Germanicus]

What is that saying. The deceive one? Wait a sec.

See people just wouldnt believe it because in the past it would be too unbelievable and also, importantly, Baby Boomers had it good. They have never really cared or known reality.

Reality is on the way. The clown show is almost done.

Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice to Deceive

Oh what a web. HA! $#@!.

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[Germanicus]

Hey mate, what do you actually know about Hitler? Anything? At all?

Ever read this Hitler poem? I came across it the other night.

In the Thicket of the Forest at Artois

It was in the thicket of the Artois Wood.
Deep in the trees, on blood-soaked ground,
Lay stretched a wounded German warrior,
And his cries rang out in the night.
In vain ... no echo answered his plea ...
Will he bleed to death like a beast,
That shot in the gut dies alone?
Then suddenly ...
Heavy steps approach from the right
He hears how they stamp on the forest floor ...
And new hope springs from his soul.
And now from the left ...
And now from both sides ...

Two men approach his miserable bed
A German it is, and a Frenchman.
And each watches the other with distrustful glance,
And threatening they aim their weapons.
The German warrior asks: "What do you do here?"
"I was touched by the needy one's call for help."

"It's your enemy!"
"It is a man who suffers."

And both, wordless, lowered their weapons.
Then entwined their hands
And, with muscles tensed, carefully lifted
The wounded warrior, as if on a stretcher,
And carried him through the woods.
'Til they came to the German outposts.
"Now it is over. He will get good care."
And the Frenchman turns back toward the woods.
But the German grasps for his hand,
Looks, moved, into sorrow-dimmed eyes
And says to him with earnest foreboding:

"I know not what fate holds for us,
Which inscrutably rules in the stars.
Perhaps I shall fall, a victim of your bullet.
Maybe mine will fell you on the sand —
For indifferent is the chance of battles.
Yet, however it may be and whatever may come:
We lived these sacred hours,
Where man found himself in man ...
And now, farewell! And God be with you!"

Till his final hour Hitler never forgot the unity of us all.

http://hitlerphilosophy.blogspot.com.au/

What a raving loon. Right? ((:

[Ethereal]

Utter nonsense. And I assume that you believe that to be intelligent? (: Or convincing? (: Confusing?


Thhe differences between the Capitalists and the National Socialists could not be more stark in almost every way.

The difference is purely superficial, only meant to fool simpletons and useful idiots.

But the facts speak volumes. Churchill, FDR, and Hitler were all statists who believed in the central tenets of state socialism, which were collectivism, totalitarianism, and centralization. Sure, they each had their own variations on these themes, much like each baker has a variation on the theme of a birthday cake. Some like green frosting, others like blue, but a cake is cake, and state socialism is state socialism, no matter how much your dress it up in deceptive and duplicitous rhetoric meant to deceive the gullible masses eager to lap up the empty promises of politicians and other arbitrary authority figures.

Take the issue of rationing for example. What is the National Socialist position? What is the Capitalist position? (:

That should get you started.

Nonsensical? Look in the mirror buddy. You are a joke.

edit- And why wouldnt you be? look at your disgusting coward degenerate society build on childish lies and idiocy. Its ridiculous.

When USA falls can you imagine? HA! Oh my $#@!ing. This is a $#@!ing clown show.

You CIA guys in every movie, on every tv show, in every media, and not just US media.

Conan OBrien for example.... HA!

Saturday Night Live. HAAA! $#@! me. Everyone from the west is going to look and feel very stupid very soon. And many will be embarrassed and we may even squeeze a little shame from the likes of Conan and Jon Stewart and Colbert and you band of capitalist propagandist clowns. I almost choke when our media makes a big deal about Chinese 'STATE media'. or says "Government mouthpiece".

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

The CIA is just another state socialist institution, created by state socialists for state socialists. Without income taxation and FIAT money, two Marxist tenets of government, the CIA wouldn't even exist, because nobody in their right mind would fork over their hard-earned money to pay for it, except perhaps the bankers who own it.

[Germanicus]

This is the most evil man in all of history. A complete and utter monster. Pure evil. A raving mad man. A carpet biter.




There was no need to lie. Nobody wants to murder Jewish people. Nobody wants to target a group for blame. Of course Hitler went too far and of course he was racist. Anyone that has read Mein Kampf can see that. But so was USA at the time. USA had segregation. USA was racist as hell along with the rest of the world at that time.

There was no need for the idiotic lies. No need to spend 60 years bulding fantasy and lies around the reasons for the anger in Germany. No need to do any of that.

But yeah, Churchil makes Hitler look like a good man when you look into it. Look at the Indian Genocide for example. Look at his dishonourable conduct in WW1 and in WW2.

It was idiotic to claim that the west was without fault. To go on about this so-called 'Greatest generation'.

The fact that Hitler targeted an entire group of people based on race speakes for itself.

If we had tried to understand Hitler we could have avoided repeating the same mistakes but now the world is ripe for a new Hitler to emerge. A furious man that is not angry and 'bitter' for no reason at all. Not because he hates his mother or didnt get into art school.. For god sake.

And people think Putin is scary? capitalists have seen nothimng yet.

I would turn the media off and start again. The Kardasians.. The Kardasians... Why? Are capiatalists trying to get themselves all killed? What the $#@!? Kanye West? %0 $#@!ing Cent? Bill $#@!ing OReilly...


You think people are not furious? And you think rubbing wealth and advantage in the faces of others while spitting on the poor isnt going to end in blood for capitalists?

When I see Fox or MTV I am sure USA is trying to cause revolt. Why should we ignore this?

And listen to people on this site. Look at your nation. And you got rich smart ass $#@!s telling everyone how $#@!ing awesomw they are and how the poor should have less and how it is the poor peoples own fault and how poor people are stupid and lazy so sucked in you are glad they are miserable/ Now that is motivation isnt it. Are people $#@!ing mad?

edit- you think Putin is scary? Putin is a $#@!ing $#@!. And so is China. I dont even have words for the west.

You people are $#@!ing disgusting. It was bad enough when you got the IMF out there making debt slaves of helpless Africans and Asians and South Americans and all nations that were not "Victors" but now you send the IMF to Europe? Are you $#@!ing with me? Greek people are lazy and deserve all they get do they US media? $#@!ing what? $#@!ing what? $#@!ing what?

Greece is one of us. What the $#@!? And the *IMF cares more about kids in Africa do they? Well they dont fcuking act like they care about people in Afrcia. Or $#@!ing Greece. If they are not wealthy anbd part of the $#@!ing vile and $#@!ing disgusting western Inbvestot Class@! You fuycks~!



You capitalists make me $#@!ing sick. You like Mandella because he "wasnt bitter"... Good $#@!ing god.

Stellar year for the QE Investor Class last year right? "Good to the last drop."

You people are a $#@!ing joke. And what happened in Germany when your kind was removed. Greatest advances in technology the world has every seen. And a rise for Germany from Bsketcase to envy of the entire world. And you want to spit on poor people. Lazy and stupid are we? Our fault is it? not as good as you $#@!ing awesome worthy hard working job creating capitalists....


AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

And get this. I am a good man. I am not very smart. Evil men that are smart know what I know. This is what worrieds me. What I have been trying to tell you fools. I live here. I do not want my coutrymen to die because of you people. I do not want my family to die because of you epeople.

Smart and evil men know what I know. China and Russia know.





Hitler declared war on you sneaky cowards. If USA had their way us allies would have done all of the fighting.

No difference?

I wish to put before you a few basic facts: The first is that in the capitalistic democratic world the most important principle of economy is that the people exist for trade and industry, and that these in turn exist for capital. We have reversed this principle by making capital exist for trade and industry, and trade and industry exist for the people. In other words, the people come first. Everything else is but a means to this end. When an economic system is not capable of feeding and clothing a people, then it is bad, regardless of whether a few hundred people say: 'As far as I am concerned it is good, excellent; my dividends are splendid.'
However, the dividends do not interest me at all. Here we have drawn the line. They may then retort: 'Well, look here, that is just what we mean. You jeopardize liberty.'
Yes, certainly, we jeopardize the liberty to profiteer at the expense of the community, and, if necessary, we even abolish it. British capitalists, to mention only one instance, can pocket dividends of 76, 80, 95, 140, and even 160 per cent from their armament industry. Naturally they say: 'If the German methods grow apace and should prove victorious, this sort of thing will stop.'
They are perfectly right. I should never tolerate such a state of affairs. In my eyes, a 6 per cent dividend is sufficient. Even from this 6 per cent we deduct one-half and, as for the rest, we must have definite proof that it is invested in the interest of the country as a whole. In other words, no individual has the right to dispose arbitrarily of money which ought to be invested for the good of the country. If he disposes of it sensibly, well and good; if not, the National Socialist state will intervene.
To take another instance, besides dividends there are the so-called directors' fees. You probably have no idea how appallingly active a board of directors is. Once a year its members have to make a journey. They have to go to the station, get into a first-class compartment and travel to some place or other. They arrive at an appointed office at about 10 or 11 A.M. There they must listen to a report. When the report has been read, they must listen to a few comments on it. They may be kept in their seats until 1 P.M. or even 2. Shortly after 2 o'clock they rise from their chairs and set out on their homeward journey, again, of course, traveling first class. It is hardly surprising that they claim 3,000, 4,000, or even 5,000 as compensation for this: Our directors formerly did the same - for what a lot of time it costs them! Such effort had to be made worth while! Of course, we have got rid of all this nonsense, which was merely veiled profiteering and even bribery.

http://www.hitler.org/speeches/12-10-40.html