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    global warming myths and facts

    1 MYTH Planet earth is currently undergoing global warming

    FACT Accurate and representative temperature measurements from satellites and balloons show that the planet has cooled significantly in the last two or three years, losing in only 18 months 15% of the claimed warming which took over 100 years to appear — that warming was only one degree fahrenheit (half of one degree Celsius) anyway, and part of this is a systematic error from groundstation readings which are inflated due to the 'urban heat island effect' i.e. local heat retention due to urban sprawl, not global warming...and it is these, 'false high' ground readings which are then programmed into the disreputable climate models, which live up to the GIGO acronym — garbage in, garbage out.

    2 MYTH Even slight temperature rises are disastrous, ice caps will melt, people will die

    FACT In the UK, every mild winter saves 20,000 cold-related deaths, and scaled up over northern Europe mild winters save hundreds of thousands of lives each year, also parts of ice caps are melting yet other parts are thickening but this isn't reported as much (home experiment: put some water in a jug or bowl, add a layer of ice cubes and mark the level — wait until the ice has melted and look again, the level will have fallen). Data from ice core samples shows that in the past, temperatures have risen by ten times the current rise, and fallen again, in the space of a human lifetime.

    3 MYTH Carbon Dioxide levels in our atmosphere at the moment are unprecedented (high).

    FACT Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, currently only 350 parts per million have been over 18 times higher in the past at a time when cars, factories and power stations did not exist — levels rise and fall without mankind's help.

    4 MYTH Mankind is pumping out carbon dioxide at a prodigious rate.

    FACT 96.5% of all carbon dioxide emissions are from natural sources, mankind is responsible for only 3.5%, with 0.6% coming from fuel to move vehicles, and about 1% from fuel to heat buildings. Yet vehicle fuel (petrol) is taxed at 300% while fuel to heat buildings is taxed at 5% even though buildings emit nearly twice as much carbon dioxide!

    5 MYTH Carbon dioxide changes in the atmosphere cause temperature changes on the earth.

    FACT A report in the journal 'Science' in January of this year showed using information from ice cores with high time resolution that since the last ice age, every time when the temperature and carbon dioxide levels have shifted, the carbon dioxide change happened AFTER the temperature change, so that man-made global warming theory has put effect before cause — this shows that reducing carbon dioxide emissions is a futile King Canute exercise! What's more, both water vapour and methane are far more powerful greenhouse gases than carbon dioxide but they are ignored.

    6 MYTH Reducing car use will cut carbon dioxide levels and save the planet

    FACT The planet does not need saving, but taking this on anyway, removing every car from every road in every country overnight would NOT produce any change in the carbon dioxide level of the atmosphere, as can be seen using the numbers from Fact 4, and in any case it is pointless trying to alter climate by changing carbon dioxide levels as the cause and effect is the other way round — it is changes in the activity of the Sun that cause temperature changes on earth, with any temperature rise causing carbon dioxide to de-gas from the oceans.

    7 MYTH The recent wet weather and flooding was caused by mankind through 'global warming'

    FACT Extreme weather correlates with the cycle of solar activity, not carbon dioxide emissions or political elections, the recent heavy rainfall in winter and spring is a perfect example of this — it occurred at solar maximum at a time when solar maxima are very intense — this pattern may well repeat every 11 years until about 2045.

    8 MYTH The climate change levy, petrol duty, CO2 car tax and workplace parking charges are justifiable environmental taxes.

    FACT As carbon dioxide emissions from cars and factories does not have any measurable impact on climate, these taxes are 'just another tax' on enterprise and mobility, and have no real green credentials.

    9 MYTH Scientists on the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issue reports that say 'global warming' is real and that we must do something now.

    FACT Scientists draft reports for the IPCC, but the IPCC are bureaucrats appointed by governments, in fact many scientists who contribute to the reports disagree with the 'spin' that the IPCC and media put on their findings.
    The latest report suggests that the next 100 years might see a temperature change of 6 Celsius yet a Lead Author for the IPCC (Dr John Christy UAH/NASA) has pointed out that the scenarios with the fastest warming rates were added to the report at a late stage, at the request of a few governments — in other words the scientists were told what to do by politicians.

    10 MYTH There are only a tiny handful of maverick scientists who dispute that man-made global warming theory is true.

    FACT There are nearly 18,000 signatures from scientists worldwide on a petition called The Oregon Petition which says that there is no evidence for man-made global warming theory nor for any impact from mankind's activities on climate.
    Many scientists believe that the Kyoto agreement is a total waste of time and one of the biggest political scams ever perpetrated on the public ... as H L Mencken said "the fundamental aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary" ... the desire to save the world usually fronts a desire to rule it.
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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    I cannot truly take credit for the OP.. it was something I found while surfing and thought it was interesting enough to share with others.. If there is a problem with it the way it is posted please delete it

    thanks in advance

    http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com...lobal-warming/


    here is a ink to what I believe is the original source for this article
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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    Looks pretty good to me. Surprising that cold winters kill that many, and I wonder how they classify cold-related deaths for the UK. 20,000 sounds like an awful lot. Interesting stuff though.

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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    20K deaths does sound like a lot. I'm curious as to how that figure was arrived at.
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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    Here is another source for that figure, from the BBC

    "Nevertheless, there is at present a 25% chance that by 2017 south-east England will see a severe heatwave which could cause 3,000 immediate deaths and the same number of heat-related deaths throughout the summer.

    While the authors acknowledge that predicting heatwaves and their effects is difficult, the risk was nonetheless "high".

    However, even 6,000 deaths pales in comparison with the number of cold-related deaths, which in the UK currently average about 20,000 per year."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7240463.stm

    I wonder if they are talking about people getting drunk on the streets and then passing out. I could definitely see that in say, Russia.

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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    Ah, here's the explanation:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5372296.stm

    He said very few of the deaths were caused by true hypothermia, where the core body temperature drops significantly.

    "Most of them are due to strokes and heart attacks.

    "This is because the blood becomes more liable to clot in people who are exposed to the cold."


    TEMPERATURE EFFECTS ON COMFORT AND HEALTH
    Image of a radiator
    24C - top range of comfort
    21C - recommended living room temperature
    Less than 20C - death risk begins
    18C - recommended bedroom temperature
    16C - resistance to respiratory diseases weakened
    12C - more than two hours at this temperature raises blood pressure and increases heart attack and stroke risk
    5C - Significant risk of hypothermia
    Source: West Midlands Public Health Observatory

    When exposed to cold, the body contracts down the blood vessels in the skin to stop blood flowing to the skin and to prevent heat loss.

    This means more of the blood circulates to central parts of the body, which overloads the heart and lungs with blood.

    The body gets rid of fluid to reduce this load by excreting salt and water, but the net result is the blood becomes more concentrated and liable to clot.

    The next biggest cold-related killer is respiratory infections such as flu.

    Sounds like the UK should do some PSAs telling people to run their heaters! I didn't know cold temperatures could kill you like that.

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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
    Here is another source for that figure, from the BBC

    "Nevertheless, there is at present a 25% chance that by 2017 south-east England will see a severe heatwave which could cause 3,000 immediate deaths and the same number of heat-related deaths throughout the summer.

    While the authors acknowledge that predicting heatwaves and their effects is difficult, the risk was nonetheless "high".

    However, even 6,000 deaths pales in comparison with the number of cold-related deaths, which in the UK currently average about 20,000 per year."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7240463.stm

    I wonder if they are talking about people getting drunk on the streets and then passing out. I could definitely see that in say, Russia.
    Strange. I'm still very skeptical about what quailifies as a heat or cold "related" death. The GW articles from Europe tend to be alarmist even more so than in the states.

    I've read articles about drunkeness in Russia. It's pretty bad. I can see that happening too.
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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    Yes, that's all very sketchy. Still I would assume the UK would emphasize the heat related deaths over the cold ones if it jives better with their anti-Global Warming campaign. While cold makes people more susceptible, ultimately it's really the flu or the strokes that are the killers in my opinion.

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    Re: global warming myths and facts

    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
    Yes, that's all very sketchy. Still I would assume the UK would emphasize the heat related deaths over the cold ones if it jives better with their anti-Global Warming campaign. While cold makes people more susceptible, ultimately it's really the flu or the strokes that are the killers in my opinion.
    I think cold weakens your body a lot more than heat in terms of your immune system so I can understand a lot more people getting sick in the cold weather. I'm just not sure that's a direct cause. 'Related" is the opeartive word. Very skectchy indeed.


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