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    Venezuela - the workers paradise, rocked by protests

    Venezuela - the workers paradise, rocked by protests

    I thought that Venezuela was socialism in action. The workers appear to be protesting more and more.

    As the Venezuelan government and the opposition enter talks aimed at resolving that country´s political, economic and security crisis, one of the sticking points will likely be the status of the Chavista militias known as "colectivos".


    Those sympathetic with the opposition have long accused the colectivos of shooting at protesters, while President Nicolas Maduro and his Chavista sympathizers say that it is the protestors, and not the government or the colectivos, that have caused the violence. Forty people have died since the protests began two months ago.
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    Another one bites the dust. Socialist countries are now beginning to be rare on the ground. Someone will be along shortly to tell you they weren't really protesting but supporting, as you can't protest against perfection.








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    Yes.

    I also read that Venezuela's oil industry is crumbling. For some reason they can't get foriegn investment to fix the aging infrastructure. Probably something to do with repeated nationalizations of foriegn oil company property.
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    Oliver Stone will be pissed.

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    I've never understood the worker fascination with socialism. All it does is make 95% of the people equally poor and give the top 5% of the nation nice $#@!. I thought that's what they were trying to avoid?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Codename Section View Post
    I've never understood the worker fascination with socialism. All it does is make 95% of the people equally poor and give the top 5% of the nation nice $#@!. I thought that's what they were trying to avoid?
    If all around you are poor, then you come to accept that as the standard by which to judge society. You don't see the rich, they're behind gated walls. The older Chinese often say they prefer the old days when no one had anything and all shared in the misery, but were happy. It would be bad form to point out to them that it was they who had nothing and the hidden 5% had the rest.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Codename Section View Post
    I've never understood the worker fascination with socialism. All it does is make 95% of the people equally poor and give the top 5% of the nation nice $#@!. I thought that's what they were trying to avoid?
    They do love the lowest common denominator. I worked hard (after high school that is) to be above the LCD.
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    Well, at least somebody is tryin' to help Venezuela get itself straightened out...

    Ex-presidents meet with Venezuela government, opposition
    May 28,`16 -- A group of former presidents has held secret meetings in the Dominican Republic with Venezuelan officials and government opponents in an attempt to mediate the South American nation's political standoff.
    The two-day meetings ending Saturday took place under the auspices of the Union of South American Nations, or UNASUR, and just the fact that they existed represented something of a breakthrough in the deeply polarized nation. But Jesus Torrealba, executive secretary of the the opposition alliance, was quick to say that no face-to-face encounter took place, and instead the two sides exchanged messages through the ex-presidents of Spain, Dominican Republic and Panama. And almost as soon as word of the meetings became known the two sides were at each others' throats again taking aim at their respective accounts of what transpired. The Venezuelan government was represented by Foreign Minister Delcy Rodriguez and two top officials in the ruling socialist party. Three lawmakers attended for the opposition.

    International pressure is growing on President Nicolas Maduro amid the threat of political upheaval and a rapid collapse of the oil-dependent economy. This week the Group of Seven rich nations joined numerous governments in Latin America, the United Nations and Organization of American States in calling for urgent talks with the opposition. Venezuela's opposition is pushing for a referendum on whether to recall Maduro amid a severe economic crisis marked by triple-digit inflation and widespread shortages of food and medicine. Meanwhile, the president blames his opponents and the U.S. for trying to oust him from power through an "economic war." Underscoring the depth of the economic desperation, 96 metric tons of medicine arrived Saturday by plane from China. The shipment includes fluids and drugs for treating Zika, whose outbreak in Venezuela has been made worse by a health care crisis.


    An opposition members holds a handwritten message that that reads in Spanish; "Venezuela is hungry," during a protest outside the court offices of the Chacao municipality, in Caracas, Venezuela, Wednesday, May 25, 2016. Opposition members held a demonstration to demand authorities hold a recall referendum on cutting short Nicolas Maduro's presidency.

    The meetings in the Dominican Republic came a week after former Spanish President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero announced that with UNASUR's blessing he would seek to initiate a "national dialogue" in Venezuela. He was joined in the effort by former President Martin Torrijos and Leonel Fernandez of the Dominican Republic. UNASUR Secretary General Ernesto Samper also met this week with Pope Francis - a popular figure in Venezuela praised even by Maduro - in a bid to encourage the Vatican to play a mediating role. Following criticism that the encounters were held in secret, the opposition said its representatives stressed several "indispensable" demands for any dialogue: allowing the recall referendum to proceed, the release of people it considers political prisoners, solving the economic crisis and for the government to "respect" the constitution and the opposition-controlled congress.

    Meanwhile Rodriguez said the initiative was promoted by Maduro to insure peace, respect for the rule of law and defense of Venezuela's sovereignty. Even indirect contact between the opposition and the government is a rare achievement in Venezuela, where the last time the two sides sat down for formal talks was in 2014 following weeks of anti-government protests in which more than 40 people were killed. Maduro delivered a constitutionally mandated state of the union address to congress in January, but for the most part government leaders and their opponents prefer to trade insults and accusations of conspiratorial intrigue from afar.

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    Hungry people looting and rioting in Venezuela...

    'We want food!' Looting and riots rock Venezuela daily
    Monday 13th June, 2016 - A young woman faints in the heat as hundreds fight for pasta, screaming they are hungry. Slum-dwellers and armed gangs wait for nightfall to hijack food trucks or ransack stores. A mother is shot dead fleeing police after hundreds storm warehouses.
    Food riots and violent looting have become a daily occurrence across scarcity-struck Venezuela and a major problem for the struggling leftist government of President Nicolas Maduro. Despite hours in lines, Venezuelans increasingly find that coveted supplies of subsidized flour and rice run out before they can buy them. Many are skipping meals, getting by on mangoes stripped from trees - or taking matters into their own hands. On a recent morning in the rundown, garbage-strewn Caracas district of El Valle, some 200 people pushed up against police guarding a supermarket as they chanted, "We want food!" and "Loot it!" A few at the front were allowed in for two bags of pasta each. "We're not eating. People are desperate for a looting," saidmother-of-three Miza Colmenares, 55, who had spent the night in line and not eaten since the previous day when she had eggs for breakfast.

    One young woman fainted in the heat, an elderly lady cried uncontrollably on the sidewalk and the seething crowd chased away a government supporter. Supermarkets have become flashpoints across Venezuela, one of the world's most violent countries. More than 10 lootings occur every day now, according to the Venezuelan Observatory of Violence, and are increasing in the usually more insulated capital. More than a quarter of the 641 protests last month were for food, according to a tally by the Venezuelan Observatory of Social Conflict, a figure that has risen every month this year.

    Venezuela's angry streets are arguably a bigger threat for Maduro than the political opposition, which is pushing to remove him via a recall referendum this year. One recent food protest came within blocks of the Miraflores presidential palace. It is a remarkable turnaround for a government which prided itself on social welfare programs such as Cuban-staffed medical posts and subsidized supermarkets. It won elections time-and-time again thanks to devoted support from Venezuela's poor.

    But with their beloved former president, Hugo Chavez, dead for three years and the economy deteriorating rapidly, many former "Chavistas" have turned on Maduro. "Behind all this is the president, the rat in his palace, eating riches while we fight to buy pasta," said homemaker Maria Perez, 31, once a Chavez supporter, at the El Valle supermarket. Maduro accuses the opposition of hoarding food to stoke unrest, an argument convincing fewer and fewer people. When Socialist Party community organizer Pedro Gonzalez, 58, told a Reuters reporter the unrest at El Valle was "orchestrated by the country's opposition," he was chased away by angry bystanders. The opposition says the government's distorted currency controls and crumbling state-led economic system are to blame.

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    Venezuelan President opposes recall referendum this year
    Monday 13th June, 2016 - Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro has refused to hold a recall referendum this year despite a popular narrative in the troubled country for removing him from his official post.
    Even though a petition was signed by citizens to oust him from the office, Maduro has made it clear that the referendum would be held only next year. Maduro is currently faced with severe hostility for failure in saving the country from a severe economic crisis and said in a statement that it was too late to hold a recall referendum right now. Adding to the pressure, the opposition is reportedly demanding that a vote be held in October or November this year. Maduro claimed, “If they had wanted to seek a referendum this year, they would have to have requested it by January 11 of this year, for them to have had enough time, if all legal requirements were met.”


    On May 2, 1.3 million signatures were signed in a bid for the voting to happen. The National Election Board (CNE), however, is performing finger print scans to check their (the signatures') validity. Out of these, 600,000 have already not made through the requirement including that of former 2013 Presidential candidate, Henrique Capriles. There has been strong dissent amongst the Opposition against this, calling out the CNE for being biased towards Maduro in this issue.

    Addressing the state television, Maduro declared, “There will be no blackmailing here. If the recall referendum’s requirements are met, it will be next year and that’s it. If the requirements aren’t met, there will be no referendum and that’s it.” Maduro himself is to approach the Supreme Court on June 13, to complain against a case of fraud. He believes that the rolls of signatures include those of the dead and convicts.

    http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/2...ndum-this-year

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    They have the largest proven oil fields in the world. They have the second largest gold deposits. Yet people claim capitalism sucks.

    Let them show the world what socialism does to people.
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