Check out this noise I made.

[spunkloaf]

Everyone's musical tastes are different. I listen to Avinci/Avicci whatever the $#@! and want to hang myself. I like this. Thanks again for sharing.

You're welcome.

I'm bored and overwhelmed by the amount of music out there that sounds like everything else I've heard. There's got to be a new direction. I'm sure Mozart didn't conceptualize music as a means to expressive conformity like the mainstream does with cliche songs today.

[Chris]

Reminds my some of Zapa, like instrumentals in "Montana." Keep experimenting.

[KC]

You're welcome.

I'm bored and overwhelmed by the amount of music out there that sounds like everything else I've heard. There's got to be a new direction. I'm sure Mozart didn't conceptualize music as a means to expressive conformity like the mainstream does with cliche songs today.

Keep pushing yourself to move further outside of musical norms and try new things. Some of the best music out there (in my opinion) is the truly original stuff. Sure, John Coltrane was a fantastic composer, but nothing he did before or after compares to Ascension or Om.

If you're interested in music that breaks the mold though we should talk. I love that kind of stuff and maybe you could show me some new stuff like that.

[Codename Section]

Hey, that dude's back. Feeling better?

[Peter1469]

I thought you might find some kind of appreciation. You still like Bjork?

yes

[spunkloaf]

Reminds my some of Zapa, like instrumentals in "Montana." Keep experimenting.

I need to explore more Zappa. I've heard a few good things.

[spunkloaf]

Keep pushing yourself to move further outside of musical norms and try new things. Some of the best music out there (in my opinion) is the truly original stuff. Sure, John Coltrane was a fantastic composer, but nothing he did before or after compares to Ascension or Om.

If you're interested in music that breaks the mold though we should talk. I love that kind of stuff and maybe you could show me some new stuff like that.

Sure. I need more exposure. I can't break the mold if I'm stuck in it.

[Chris]

I need to explore more Zappa. I've heard a few good things.

Do, he was great, libertarian to boot. And, yes, Zappa, not Zapa.

[KC]

Do, he was great, libertarian to boot. And, yes, Zappa, not Zapa.

Nothing quite like Hot Rats. Of course I love Joe's Garage and 200 Motels too.

[waltky]

Granny always tellin' Uncle Ferd to turn down the radio...

Now Hear This: Loud Sound May Pose More Harm Than We Thought
March 14, 2017 — Matt Garlock has trouble making out what his friends say in loud bars, but when he got a hearing test, the result was normal. Recent research may have found an explanation for problems like his, something called "hidden hearing loss."

Scientists have been finding evidence that loud noise - from rock concerts, leaf blowers, power tools and the like - damages our hearing in a previously unsuspected way. It may not be immediately noticeable, and it does not show up in standard hearing tests. But over time, Harvard researcher M. Charles Liberman says, it can rob our ability to understand conversation in a noisy setting. It may also help explain why people have more trouble doing that as they age. And it may lead to persistent ringing in the ears. The bottom line: "Noise is more dangerous than we thought."

His work has been done almost exclusively in animals. Nobody knows how much it explains hearing loss in people or how widespread it may be in the population. But he and others are already working on potential treatments. To understand Liberman's research, it helps to know just how we hear. When sound enters our ears, it's picked up by so-called hair cells. They convert sound waves to signals that are carried by nerves to the brain. People can lose hair cells for a number of reasons - from loud noise or some drugs, or simple aging - and our hearing degrades as those sensors are lost. That loss is what is picked up by a standard test called an audiogram that measures how soft a noise we can hear in a quiet environment.

Liberman's work suggests that there's another kind of damage that doesn't kill off hair cells, but which leads to experiences like Garlock's. A 29-year-old systems engineer who lives near Boston, Garlock is a veteran of rock concerts. "You come home and you get that ringing in your ears that lasts for a few days and then it goes away," he said. But after he went to Las Vegas for a friend's birthday, and visited a couple of dance clubs, it didn't go away. So he had the audiogram done, in 2015, and his score was normal. Last fall, he came across a news story about a study co-authored by Liberman. It was a follow-up to Libermans' earlier work that suggests loud noise damages the delicate connections between hair cells and the nerves that carry the hearing signal to the brain.

The news story said this can cause not only persistent ringing in the ears, but also a lingering difficulty in understanding conversations in background noise. After the Vegas trip, Garlock sensed he had that problem himself. "I notice myself leaning in and asking people to repeat themselves, but I don't notice anybody else doing that," he said. Garlock emailed one of Liberman's colleagues and volunteered for any follow-up studies. It's hard to be sure that Garlock's situation can be explained by the research. But the seeming contradiction of hearing problems in people with perfect hearing tests has puzzled experts for years, says Robert Fifer of the University of Miami's Mailman Center for Child Development. He's seen it in Air Force personnel who worked around airplanes and in a few music-blasting adolescents.

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