Creationists Hit the Panic Button After Neil DeGrasse Tyson Demolishes Their Myth

[KC]

Not all Creationists believe the world is 6,000 years old though. I believe in God and that It created and is all things and I'm fine with this universe being 15 billion years old.

Partisans paint with broad strokes.

[Polecat]

There is plenty of evidence out there to concoct all sorts of theories but there is not a whole lot of proof. One way or the other. One program I was watching made a declaration that the speed of light is always the same. A different program was talking about how the speed of light has been slowed down in experiments. The vast majority of what we know to be fact is really just hypothesis with a large amount of evidence observed to draw such conclusions but no actual PROOF. It makes sense to keep an open mind in this realm whether you're a hard core scientist or fanatical zealot.

Case in point. Program: Through the Wormhole (with yet another black host) had a physicist in his sports car throwing drinks out the window and describing the velocity of the drink as being the speed of his car + the speed of which he threw the beverage. He went on to explain that shining a spot light from his speeding chariot would not be the speed of light + plus the speed of his car, as the speed of light was carved in stone at 186,000 miles/sec. Fast forward to another episode of the same program and we have astrophysicists describing how they have determined the universe is expanding because of the Doppler shift toward the red in light from just about everything they can see with a telescope. These two "facts" completely contradict each other. Somewhere in there is the truth. Or maybe not. Fascinating all the same.

Darwin was a superb master of observation and his conclusions based on his observations brought about his theory of Evolution. This is another "fact" that has so many contradictions that today's scientist have began bickering over the anomalies. The one that hits home the hardest for me is how the primordial soup gave rise to all life on the planet yet only homo sapiens have achieved language and civilization. This is a statistical turd in the whole idea.


My position is we really don't know $#@!. We like to think we do but its really all nothing more than an educated guess.

[The Sage of Main Street]

You're confusing the vast majority of creationists for intelligent people.

You're confusing Postclassical Nobel Physicists with intelligent people. Heisenberg became a Nazi; how intelligent was that?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Not all Creationists believe the world is 6,000 years old though. I believe in God and that It created and is all things and I'm fine with this universe being 15 billion years old.

I'm sure that the universe is also fine with you being 12 years old.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Thank you. I think this dude assumes a hell of a lot. He thinks that all of us use snakes and magic chants.

The only religion I know that uses snakes and magic chants is Voodoo Economics.

[Contrails]

Darwin was a superb master of observation and his conclusions based on his observations brought about his theory of Evolution. This is another "fact" that has so many contradictions that today's scientist have began bickering over the anomalies. The one that hits home the hardest for me is how the primordial soup gave rise to all life on the planet yet only homo sapiens have achieved language and civilization. This is a statistical turd in the whole idea.

As with any statistical distribution, something has to be at the extreme end. Evolution took 3.6 billion years to go from a simple single-celled organism to the variety we see today, and yet language as we know it didn't arise in humans until about 2 million years ago. And just because we cannot understand them doesn't mean other animals haven't developed the ability to communicate.

[The Sage of Main Street]

There is plenty of evidence out there to concoct all sorts of theories but there is not a whole lot of proof. One way or the other. One program I was watching made a declaration that the speed of light is always the same. A different program was talking about how the speed of light has been slowed down in experiments. The vast majority of what we know to be fact is really just hypothesis with a large amount of evidence observed to draw such conclusions but no actual PROOF. It makes sense to keep an open mind in this realm whether you're a hard core scientist or fanatical zealot.

Case in point. Program: Through the Wormhole (with yet another black host) had a physicist in his sports car throwing drinks out the window and describing the velocity of the drink as being the speed of his car + the speed of which he threw the beverage. He went on to explain that shining a spot light from his speeding chariot would not be the speed of light + plus the speed of his car, as the speed of light was carved in stone at 186,000 miles/sec. Fast forward to another episode of the same program and we have astrophysicists describing how they have determined the universe is expanding because of the Doppler shift toward the red in light from just about everything they can see with a telescope. These two "facts" completely contradict each other. Somewhere in there is the truth. Or maybe not. Fascinating all the same.

Darwin was a superb master of observation and his conclusions based on his observations brought about his theory of Evolution. This is another "fact" that has so many contradictions that today's scientist have began bickering over the anomalies. The one that hits home the hardest for me is how the primordial soup gave rise to all life on the planet yet only homo sapiens have achieved language and civilization. This is a statistical turd in the whole idea.


My position is we really don't know $#@!. We like to think we do but its really all nothing more than an educated guess.

Have physicists ever measured the speed of infrared or ultraviolet light? Not to mention the rest of the invisible part of the spectrum. By the way, what prevents light from going faster? What drags on it?

I don't want to go into this with anyone who blindly worships self-appointed scientific authorities, but the speed of light in the underlying fourth spatial dimension covers 6 of our light years a second (c^2). That is because it is one-dimensional and has less to drag on.

I just read that Eddington thought Black Holes were absurd and impossible. While agreeing with the math that led to the conclusion that they existed, he said there must be some unknown factor refuting that. In an explanation they forbid us to make, a revolutionary theory would be that they are volcanos into 4D. The "Big Bang" (another revealingly childish term) was a reverse volcano into our 3D.