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    Pennsylvania joins Same Sex Marriage

    *Breaking*

    A federal judge Tuesday declared Pennsylvania's ban on same-sex marriage unconstitutional

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-strikes-down-pennsylvania-same-sex-marriage-ban-n110061

    The fourth such ruling on a state ban in the past three weeks.




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    Some gays were happy, some less so.

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    Either the state has no say in marriage, or gays and other groups have a legitimate gripe.

    It's either or, no other way about it.

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    So much for consent of the governed.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
    across a period of many years if he is
    to have a chance of succeeding"

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    I'm for anyone marrying and have supported gay marriage referendum's in my state. I don't support this going through the courts.

    Marriage is a natural right, not a government institution. What they convey are benefits denied to those who refuse to meet a mandatory definition, and that is exclusive.
    And if we should die tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    I'm for anyone marrying and have supported gay marriage referendum's in my state. I don't support this going through the courts.

    Marriage is a natural right, not a government institution. What they convey are benefits denied to those who refuse to meet a mandatory definition, and that is exclusive.
    Well, this natural right now is granted. Before it was banned (same-sex marriage). So, this natural right was denied, banned, therefore it is positive.
    Last edited by kilgram; 05-20-2014 at 03:30 PM.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    Gotta be honest, if you are gonna say its unconstitutional then you should be able to marry to multiple partners.

    What is unconstitutional is moving the the line around to the political favor of the day.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Well, this natural right now is granted. Before it was banned (same-sex marriage). So, this natural right was denied, banned, therefore it is positive.
    It was never denied. People got married in churches and backyards for years. You're talking about the state portion which is a civil union where special rights are conferred to people who decide to receive the blessing of the Almighty State.

    And what if the rest of us? Why can't I leave my SS which I've paid through my payroll taxes all my life to whomever I want? No. I am forced to get married to receive this benefit. Why can't the person I love see me at the hospital or get information on me unless he comes in with me or I give it to him? Why can't I just tell doctors he's allowed to know? Because the state now gets to determine the level of my relationship.

    Marry...or else you don't get these perks other people get automatically. That's complete bull$#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    It was never denied. People got married in churches and backyards for years. You're talking about the state portion which is a civil union where special rights are conferred to people who decide to receive the blessing of the Almighty State.

    And what if the rest of us? Why can't I leave my SS which I've paid through my payroll taxes all my life to whomever I want? No. I am forced to get married to receive this benefit. Why can't the person I love see me at the hospital or get information on me unless he comes in with me or I give it to him? Why can't I just tell doctors he's allowed to know? Because the state now gets to determine the level of my relationship.

    Marry...or else you don't get these perks other people get automatically. That's complete bull$#@!.
    Well, it happens when is the state based in conservative ideologies. The society demands or demanded it.

    Now, this conservative societal structure is being transformed. Give time, maybe it will become as you would like it will be. But same-sex marriage is a step openning freedoms in the marriage topic.
    Last edited by kilgram; 05-20-2014 at 03:41 PM.
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    And the all out attack on the proper structure of marriage continues folks. Expect America will be destroyed because of this and other moral failures such as abortion.
    IT'S JUST BORIS!





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