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    Quote Originally Posted by rcfieldz View Post
    mine is probably 500 - 600. No kiddin'!

    Do you know the breakdown between LCD and HLD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    Your cholesterol is supposed to be under 100, mine is 77. Do you know what yours is?
    So far, all the talk is about cholesterol as it relates to heart disease. What about cancer? Cholesterol comes from animal protein and animal protein promotes cancer because it contains Interleukin Growth Factor 1 (IGF-1). IGF-1 promotes a fast turnover of cells. It also has to do with the way animal protein is metabolized. Meat, for example, is alkaline but puts an acid load on the body when metabolized and cancer thrives in an acid environment. So a diet high in animal protein (and processed foods too) can lead to many diseases and disorders other than heart disease.
    Last edited by Trumpster; 03-13-2018 at 04:33 PM.

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    We can't live without cholesterol. We need the proper ratio between HDL and LDL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty View Post
    Your cholesterol is supposed to be under 100, mine is 77. Do you know what yours is?
    Yes. I've been taking atorvastatin drugs for about 18 years now to control high cholesterol; a family genetic thing on the male side where there is a strong history of heart disease. Oldest uncle dropped dead of a heart attack at 42. Both middle uncle and dad (youngest) had quadruple bypasses in their early 60s. I'd had high cholesterol in tests for years, but it kept climbing despite exercise and a healthy diet. The doc said it was genetic and prescribed medication. I asked "If I kept exercising, eating well, drinking little or moderately and took these <at the time> $1/day pills, would I still end up with a zipper in my chest at age 64?" He said "no, you'll be fine".


    I'm 62 years old now and had a nuclear stress test at age 60. Results? Completely healthy heart. You folks do as you please, but I'll just keep doing as the doctors recommend.
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    Study says there's no link between cholesterol and heart disease

    Where did the story come from?

    The study was carried out by researchers from the University of South Florida, the Japan Institute of Pharmacovigilance and various other international institutions in Japan, Sweden, UK, Ireland, US and Italy.


    Funding was provided by the Western Vascular Institute. The study was published in the peer-reviewed BMJ Open and, as the journal name suggests, the article is open-access, so can be read for free.


    Four of the study authors have previously written book(s) criticising "the cholesterol hypothesis". It should also be noted that nine of the authors are members of THINCS – The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics. This is described as a group of scientists who "oppose…that animal fat and high cholesterol play a role [in heart disease]".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We can't live without cholesterol. We need the proper ratio between HDL and LDL.
    That's obviously a true statement. But what are the implications? Are you suggesting that we need to consume cholesterol (in a certain way) to maintain the proper balance? I've been a vegan for 13 years and my doctor says that my HDL and LDL ratio couldn't be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpster View Post
    That's obviously a true statement. But what are the implications? Are you suggesting that we need to consume cholesterol (in a certain way) to maintain the proper balance? I've been a vegan for 13 years and my doctor says that my HDL and LDL ratio couldn't be better.
    Our bodies produce some cholesterol, and if yours is doing fine on a vegan diet, then that is great. I think part of the problem is when people eat corn fed beef, pigs, etc- that screws with the LDL-HDL ratios. That is what causes the health problems.
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