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    Jesus loves rainbows.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre View Post
    Well, we likely won't live to see it, but it should arrive some time in the next 100 years or so.
    That's my hope.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Jesus loves rainbows.
    Gays love pickles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Gays love pickles.
    Only sweet for me. I don't care for dill unless it's mixed into like tuna or something.

    Now, olives...give me a can of olives and I'll eat the whole thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Only sweet for me. I don't care for dill unless it's mixed into like tuna or something.

    Now, olives...give me a can of olives and I'll eat the whole thing.
    Dill is way too strong.
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    We are entering a post-Christian world and people are not going to like the changes in society as traditional values, the Ten Commandments, and concepts such as the Golden Rule are abandoned and forgotten.

    We will see returns of things that were abolished when the Roman Empire converted to Christianity: infanticide, gladitorial games, human sacrifice, animal sacrifice, witchcraft, sorcery, rampant and openly practiced pedophilia, slavery, and all the rest. Homosexuality and same-sex marriage is only the foretaste of what is to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    Wow, next surprise you'll drop is that the Unitarians are recognizing it too--oh. Wait.
    Hey, these faux Christians don't need no steenkin Bible!

    Some folks had just better hope the Muslims don't get put in charge. Because they remember their theology very well and they have a very effective Old Testament style to enforcing it.

    I think America is going to end up in the Guinness Book of Records for "Fastest Moral Decay In The History of Man."

    Note that I have no problem with Civil Unions. When Christian religions start being corrupted and ignoring the basic teachings of Christianity, I have a problem with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Gays love pickles.
    Pickles love the Gays....
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Pickles love the Gays....
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    This is why the Protestant churches are declining in power, membership, and moral authority:

    Anglicanism[edit]


    The Anglican Communion gave approval for birth control in some circumstances at the 1930 Lambeth Conference. At the 1958 Lambeth Conference it was stated that the responsibility for deciding upon the number and frequency of children was laid by God upon the consciences of parents "in such ways as are acceptable to husband and wife".[47][48]

    Lutheranism[edit]

    The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America allows for contraception in the event the potential parents do not intend to care for a child.[49] Other Lutheran churches or synods take other positions, or do not take any position at all. For example, in 1990 the Lutheran Churches of the Reformation passed a resolution titled "Procreation" stating that birth control, in all forms, is sin, although they "allow for exegetical differences and exceptional cases (casuistry)", for example, when the woman's life is at risk.[50] Neither the Missourinor Wisconsin synods have an official position on contraception.[51]

    Methodism[edit]

    The United Methodist Church, holds that "each couple has the right and the duty prayerfully and responsibly to control conception according to their circumstances." Its Resolution on Responsible Parenthood states that in order to "support the sacred dimensions of personhood, all possible efforts should be made by parents and the community to ensure that each child enters the world with a healthy body, and is born into an environment conducive to realization of his or her potential." To this end, the United Methodist Church supports "adequate public funding and increased participation in family planning services by public and private agencies."[52][53]

    Presbyterianism[edit]

    The Presbyterian Church (USA) supports “full and equal access to contraceptive methods.” In a recent resolution endorsing insurance coverage for contraceptives, the church affirmed that “contraceptive services are part of basic health care” and cautioned that “unintended pregnancies lead to higher rates of infant mortality, low birth weight, and maternal morbidity, and threaten the economic viability of families.”[54] Other Reformed groups, however, are at odds over the issue, as can be seen in recent works arguing that the practice of birth control has no legitimate Christian support. (See for instance "The Christian Case against Contraception: Making the Case from Historical, Biblical, Systematic, and Practical Theology & Ethics" by Bryan C. Hodge.)

    Mennonites[edit]

    The Mennonite Church USA, the General Conference Mennonite Church, and the Conservative Mennonite Conference have adopted statements indicating approval of modern methods of contraception. For example, while also teaching and encouraging love and acceptance of children, the Conservative Mennonite Conference maintains, "The prevention of pregnancy when feasible by birth control with pre-fertilization methods is acceptable."[55] A study published in 1975 found that only 11% of Mennonites believed use of birth control was "always wrong".[56] Old Colony Mennonites, like the Amish, do not officially allow birth control practices.

    Amish[edit]

    Not only are all types of artificial birth control forbidden in Old-Order Amish communities, but any varieties of natural family planning, such as calendar-based methods, are also condemned.[57] [56] However, especially in recent years, more Amish women have begun using contraception. This trend is more pronounced in communities where few of the men earn their living through farming.[58]

    Hutterites[edit]

    The Hutterite Brethren use contraception only if it is recommended by a physician.[59]
    Prior to 1930, all Christians stood united that birth control was intrisically evil and contrary to God's plan of procreation of the human race.

    Now, the Catholic Church stands alone on this issue.

    And the Catholic Church cannot even get its own members to follow its teachings.

    Birth control is killing off the West. We are having fewer and fewer children while the Muslims have more and more.

    And the teaching on birth control was key to the entire Christian view on sexuality and marriage.

    Once the teaching on birth control was changed, it was not long before the Protestant churches accepted divorce.

    And now, the Protestant churches, one by one, are changing their position on homosexuality and same-sex marriage.

    As the only authentic Church of Jesus Christ, the Catholic Church will remain faithful to the truth on these issues, no matter how much pressure is brought to bear.

    And there will be pressure, followed by persecutions. People are already losing businesses, jobs and careers over same-sex marriage.

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