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    Quote Originally Posted by gophangover View Post
    That was the GOP plan in Iraq. Everybody keeps asking, "what did we win?" The best laid plans.......
    You forgot.....the Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs wanted to bring some of that New Form of Democracy over there. You know.....that Humani-terroism, with Elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFBUACMKA View Post
    Point is we're addicted to war/oil; and "wars for oil" we might eventually learn something, but it is what it is.

    Sigh..the old slogans make me so nostalgic. Where did we get any oil for going to war?
    LOL
    officially we didn't, it's been debated back and forth.

    rather then me post, here's a link, that supports that view. I understand not everyone is in agreement,,but check it out if you wish
    http://truth-out.org/index.php?optio...-was-about-oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You forgot.....the Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs wanted to bring some of that New Form of Democracy over there. You know.....that Humani-terroism, with Elections.
    it's possible to have dual interests. Yes. the whole thing was based on ...whatever the neocons invented... but checkmou the link i posted.

    It's one of those things, you either buy into or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You forgot.....the Neo-Cons and Neo-Libs wanted to bring some of that New Form of Democracy over there. You know.....that Humani-terroism, with Elections.
    And they're both still beating that poor dead horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    LOL
    officially we didn't, it's been debated back and forth.

    rather then me post, here's a link, that supports that view. I understand not everyone is in agreement,,but check it out if you wish
    http://truth-out.org/index.php?optio...-was-about-oil
    Interesting article, but too many holes in the story.

    Let's assume the war in Iraq was for oil.

    Where is it? - Did the evil oil companies take it and not tell us?

    Did we use it to pay for the war? - We should have, we would have no deficit today if we did.

    Is gas cheaper? (rhetorical)

    The writer forgets - in Desert Storm, Saddam Hussein set the oil feilds in Kuwait on fire to cover his army's escape. Pure speculation here, but I would hope any attack planned would take that into consideration - hence the need for detailed maps.


    Further, a FIRED White House advisor - maybe one with an ax to grind - is quoted as a credible source.


    Too many deficiencies in this article to call it credible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    LOL
    officially we didn't, it's been debated back and forth.

    rather then me post, here's a link, that supports that view. I understand not everyone is in agreement,,but check it out if you wish
    http://truth-out.org/index.php?optio...-was-about-oil
    Way I always read the neocons was the war was not fought to take the oil but to keep it flowing in free market and not let Saddam hold the world hostage with it. Iraq is a monor source of our oil imports:

    Sources of U.S. Oil Imports

    Canada 11%
    Mexico 11
    Saudi Arabia 9
    Venezuela 8
    Nigeria 7
    Iraq 4
    25 other countries 8


    Not, btw, intending to excuse the ex-Trotskyite liberals-mugged-by-reality neocons at all.

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    Allow the Keystone Pipeline, and most of these countries can go to hell.

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    Thought Keystone was to pipe Canadian crude to US refineries and then export to Europe and Latin America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Thought Keystone was to pipe Canadian crude to US refineries and then export to Europe and Latin America.
    While it wouldn't surprise me if some oil went overseas, it is primarily for US markets. It would also create 20,000 direct jobs, and as many as 80,000 other jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFBUACMKA View Post
    While it wouldn't surprise me if some oil went overseas, it is primarily for US markets. It would also create 20,000 direct jobs, and as many as 80,000 other jobs.
    Believe it will all be exported. Those jobs are for construction and refining. Nothing to slough off in this economy.

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