Kendall Jones?

[zelmo1234]

Or I can say I think it's horrible and pelt her with tomatoes.

Do those tribes own the lions? Is the world our giant toybox suddenly? We don't own the world, we are stewards of it until God comes again. I hardly think that abuse and cruelty of creatures who are not as intelligent was what He meant by taking care of the earth.

You are correct the government owns those lions, just like in the country the state owns the local wildlife and the feds own the migratory wildlife!

In Africa the tribes are not allowed to kill for food. Much like in England the wildlife was for the royalty, not the peasants.

But it is a system of food donations and bribes plus the outlandish fees that the government charges for the license

She actually caused a lot of people to benefit from a managed resource.

As far as pelting her with tomato's? as long as she has her right of self defense I have no issue with it!

[Matty]

Then you should advocate to make it illegal.

But if something is legal, then I see nothing wrong with it, especially in Africa where it supports entire tribes.

Legal doesn't equate to moral or ethical. Ending the life of a beautiful lion so you can take pictures and maybe get a reality show is disgusting and I don't care if it's legal.

[Mainecoons]

Is the woman aborting her child in the US doing anything illegal?

Legal and right do not always coincide.

True, but in this case "right" is subjective. In actuality, she did no more harm than someone getting a permit for "harvesting" harp seals.

[Alyosha]

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Nice attempt at a straw man argument. Try again.

It's not a straw man. A straw man would be asking him if he beat his wife. When you bring up as a justification that the villagers are willing to sell it, it is acceptable to point out that they would a) sell other things, and b) do so in a way to emphasize that just because someone would do something, doesn't make it acceptable.

[zelmo1234]

That works for prey animals, not the predators. Prey animals have multiple offspring and gestate quickly, not so for predators.

I'm totally sure that those rugged outdoorsmen are plopping money down in Africa for lion conservation.

I think that my dealer paid about 20K in license, guide fees and bribes and the tribes eat the lions! they are not nearly as fussy as we are.

They use the bones for tools and make powders to sell.

With all of the pictures that I have seen of this young lady I would say that he father spent about a quarter of a million to take her on that hunt, and that is if he did not hunt himself.

What have you done for African wildlife lately?

[Alyosha]

True, but in this case "right" is subjective. In actuality, she did no more harm than someone getting a permit for "harvesting" harp seals.

Ask me if I think tampering with apex predators anywhere, Africa or the oceans is a good and healthy thing.

There is a reason for apex predators. They evolved for a purpose, and it's not because they're cute.

[Alyosha]

I think that my dealer paid about 20K in license, guide fees and bribes and the tribes eat the lions! they are not nearly as fussy as we are.

And? Why am I supposed to care? If we can profit off of something that automatically makes it right?

They use the bones for tools and make powders to sell.

Awesome. So?

With all of the pictures that I have seen of this young lady I would say that he father spent about a quarter of a million to take her on that hunt, and that is if he did not hunt himself.

Cool for them.

What have you done for African wildlife lately?

First, I never talk about where my money goes, so I would not answer that question. It says in the Bible to keep our charity private. Second, you are not helping African wildlife by removing apex predators.

You are helping African bureaucrats. Some of that money goes into preservation but in Africa it mostly goes into the palms of government workers.

[zelmo1234]

Is the woman aborting her child in the US doing anything illegal?

Legal and right do not always coincide.



Do I care?



No one eats "lion". Humans eat prey animals. Africa is full of elk and zebra and things of that nature. Predators are in weaker population distribution than those things...oh whatever.

It's awesome she killed a lion that would have breathed another day, enjoyed the sun, reveled in breezes, and had no idea that this was his last moment on the earth so that someone could have some fun.

Cool.

Actually you are misinformed on many of you facts.

First I applaud you, most that are against this will not admit they could give a $#@! if the tribes starve to death! Thanks for your honesty

Second the tribes actually do eat meat, and at hunters fund raising dinners I have eaten Zebra it is fantastic

There are NO Elk in Africa though the do have many grazing animals Which she has lost of pictures of those too.

The lion that she shot was not only a lion but a very old lion, the guides try to find these very old males, because in the breading season it is likely that the younger dominate males would kill the lion anyway!

My guess is if she was a fat man with a cowboy hat on it would be much to do about anything

She is a beautiful young women enjoying a legal activity that liberals can't stand

That set a bad president and thus she must be destroyed

[zelmo1234]

It's not a straw man. A straw man would be asking him if he beat his wife. When you bring up as a justification that the villagers are willing to sell it, it is acceptable to point out that they would a) sell other things, and b) do so in a way to emphasize that just because someone would do something, doesn't make it acceptable.

The Abortion thing is not a strawman. But I don't go around chastising women that have had an abortion.

I advocate to try and change the law.

Now if I was out finding people that did have an abortion and posting pictures or pelting them with tomato's then we would have an apples to apples comparison

[Alyosha]

You are correct the government owns those lions, just like in the country the state owns the local wildlife and the feds own the migratory wildlife!

In Africa the tribes are not allowed to kill for food. Much like in England the wildlife was for the royalty, not the peasants.

But it is a system of food donations and bribes plus the outlandish fees that the government charges for the license

She actually caused a lot of people to benefit from a managed resource.

As far as pelting her with tomato's? as long as she has her right of self defense I have no issue with it!

Africa is a continent. Each country and region have their own laws. There are hundreds of Cebu farms in Africa. They eat meat. They eat beef, goat, etc.