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    Ignoring the trolls-

    Plan Rainbow Five was FDR's leaked plan to invade Europe with a force of 5 million to get Hitler. It was leaked I believe by the Chicago Tribune which is actually referenced by Hitler in his speech. Regardless of whether it was a declaration of war or not, Hitler clearly knew what was coming and FDR wanted him to know.

    Another interesting scheme, though not entirely on topic, is the Morgenthau Plan to force Germans into neo-agriculturalism and strip all of Germany of its industry so it couldn't try ruling the world again. Of course this plan also would have starved 20 million German people and killed millions as well. Even the Communist spy Harry Dexter White thought it was too extreme.

    Another ignored chunk of history is the forced expulsion of ethnic Germans. The United States, Great Britain and USSR carried out the largest forced relocation in human history by ripping 14 million people from their homes in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia and Poland and planting them in Germany. Half a million died from starvation and disease, tens of thousands from beatings and mistreatment. Oh and concentration camps. Yeha the Allies used slave labor like the Nazis after the Holocaust ended. No really. The Nuremberg trials were happening while we did this. In Winston Churchill's own words it was ethnic cleansing or as he put it "the total expuslion of the Germans..."

    But I'm rambling. If anyone wants a better argued pov than I can give on the reason we went to war with Germany, I found a cached article by the author of Hitler Attacks Pearl Harbor - Richard Hill. Here's the article-

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    I was engaged to a girl in Berlin who had endured a lot of bombing and being forced to scurry about to find any food to eat. I hated to remind her of her pain.

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    lol @ this thread

    It certainly delivers the lulz.
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    Geez, trying to read a serious thread around here is difficult. I am sooooo glad del is gone. What a butticus anuscus.

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    Much like 9/11 being used to justify attacking Saddam Hussein, Hitler had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor yet the US government (despite FDR purposely pushing Japan into attacking) and the press fed the people the lie that the Nazis had to either have planned or carried it out because Japs were inferior. Most Americans believed Hitler was behind Pearl Harbor, yet Nazis were scrambling to find it on a map. After Nazi documents confirmed that Hitler had no idea about the attack, the US and historians rewrote history to make our declaration of war against Germany a response to Hitler's declaration of war. Except that Hitler didn't declare war, but gave a speech attacking the US for its illegal naval war in the Atlantic that FDR was happy to wage for the Allies.
    Hitler had no idea about the geographic location of Pearl Harbor and Japan's plans to attack it but his assumption was that the Japanese would tie down the United States in the Pacific and weaken Britain by threatening its Asian possessions by declaring war on the United States. Foreign Minister Yosuke Matsuoka discussed German-Japan co-operation in a war against the United States eight months before Pearl Harbor. Hitler told Matsuoka that Germany "would conduct a most energetic fight against America with her U-boats and Luftwaffe, and due to superior experience she would be vastly superior." Through diplomatic channels, Hitler also kept pushing Japan to open another front on Russia to ease pressure on Nazi Germany after it attacked the Soviet Union, which Japan politely declined out of fear that the Soviets were vastly superior.

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