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    From Here - Where Are We Going?


    Right now we have a mixed market economic system type - it doesn't matter if you feel the need to throw in crony - laissez-faire - liberal - techno - social - eco - state - or neo or any other irrelevant varient, the general consensus is that we indeed have a mixed market economic system. That being the standard of where here is, what do you think our next system of economics will be and what'll be the catalyst if any that gets us there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilifier of Zombies View Post

    Right now we have a mixed market economic system type - it doesn't matter if you feel the need to throw in crony - laissez-faire - liberal - techno - social - eco - state - or neo or any other irrelevant varient, the general consensus is that we indeed have a mixed market economic system. That being the standard of where here is, what do you think our next system of economics will be and what'll be the catalyst if any that gets us there?
    Did you read Keyser's 'Welcome to the Asylum' thread? The OP is a fascinating article by Chris Hedges. Hedges suggests we need to return to the "older vision of community" as practiced by the Iroquois.

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    It seems that even the word 'community' is being demonized by the Bircher thinkers...anything beside their system and certainly anything requiring equitable use and sharing by the 1%. We are rapidly moving back into the robber baron days with complete monopolies but the T-types seem to follow a CATO belief that our problems are all caused by a 'lack' of a free capitalist system...WTF? I find it very difficult and tedious to even discuss with people here. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by dadakarma View Post
    Did you read Keyser's 'Welcome to the Asylum' thread? The OP is a fascinating article by Chris Hedges. Hedges suggests we need to return to the "older vision of community" as practiced by the Iroquois.
    In America? I don't think that's even remotely possible.

    I haven't paid attention to anything Hedges says or does since Hitchens brought him down a couple of notches awhile back.

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    In America? I don't think that's even remotely possible.

    I haven't paid attention to anything Hedges says or does since Hitchens brought him down a couple of notches awhile back.
    Perhaps you should read his 'Welcome to the Asylum' piece, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dadakarma View Post
    Perhaps you should read his 'Welcome to the Asylum' piece, though.
    I read what was posted and no I still don't think it's even remotely possible given several of our demographic dynamics it wouldn't even ever be considered as viable, also - aside from casinos and cigarette sales on the internet it hasn't worked out all that well for the Iroquois in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilifier of Zombies View Post
    I read what was posted and no I still don't think it's even remotely possible given several of our demographic dynamics it wouldn't even ever be considered as viable, also - aside from casinos and cigarette sales on the internet it hasn't worked out all that well for the Iroquois in the end.
    Which would be a whole topic in itself. What now is the question though...in what direction do we continue? I think he's calling for something that has been carefully dismantled in this country and is in process of being smothered by authoritarian responses...ie OWS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyser soze View Post
    It seems that even the word 'community' is being demonized by the Bircher thinkers...anything beside their system and certainly anything requiring equitable use and sharing by the 1%. We are rapidly moving back into the robber baron days with complete monopolies but the T-types seem to follow a CATO belief that our problems are all caused by a 'lack' of a free capitalist system...WTF? I find it very difficult and tedious to even discuss with people here. JMO
    The flip side of that same coin are the LaRouche conspiracy quacks - I generally discount either of 'em as irrelevant and other than mockingly making fun of either I wouldn't ever bring 'em up as a topic of the thread.

    Do you find that the fringe might somehow be relevant in the near future Verbal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyser soze View Post
    Which would be a whole topic in itself. What now is the question though...in what direction do we continue? I think he's calling for something that has been carefully dismantled in this country and is in process of being smothered by authoritarian responses...ie OWS...
    See, that's just it, I think Hedges gave OWS way too much credit and disregards a lot of history in between to make a less than savvy point.

    One of the reasons Hitchens was able to $#@! slap Hedges so handedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilifier of Zombies View Post
    The flip side of that same coin are the LaRouche conspiracy quacks - I generally discount either of 'em as irrelevant and other than mockingly making fun of either I wouldn't ever bring 'em up as a topic of the thread.

    Do you find that the fringe might somehow be relevant in the near future Verbal?
    I find them relevant because they are all over the place posting the insanity and fantasy. Yes...tell a lie often enough and it will be truth as Fox News has demonstrated...they are relevant.

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