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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal Mother View Post
    Citizen militias prevented attacks in Iraq between 2006 and 2010 and were the only way we were able to dig out AQ. I've seen it work in action.
    They were sponsored and equipped by the US. US militias would not receive that kind of support.

    It's also how we got rid of the British, fyi.
    In the 18th century.

    But 911 did happen. So did Oklahoma City. So did the first Trade Center bombing. Russia and the US had the same level of nukes and didn't want mutually assured destruction.
    Tornadoes happen much more often...

    The terrorists are fine with mutually assured destruction.
    Agreed which is why we need to destroy them first.

    I'm saying what I would do. I know we're going to wait for another attack and then go full force Big Brother.
    Most likely but we would do the same even if we implemented the strategy you posed.


    Why should we care as much about other countries as our own people? We do, but we shouldn't.
    Agreed but the resources at stake would have a global impact. I also happen to believe in the principles of an ally.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    They were sponsored and equipped by the US. US militias would not receive that kind of support.
    The IP were sponsored and equipped by the US. The citizens bought their own weapons. Also 270 million guns in the US. 340 million people.

    **shrugs**



    In the 18th century.
    And? Like I said I saw Iraqi women holding AKs. We can learn here.

    Or not. I don't care really what happens to the apathetic all that much.


    Tornadoes happen much more often...
    Sure which is why we didn't need the Patriot Act and why we don't need to change anything except our vigilance.



    Agreed which is why we need to destroy them first.
    lol, ok.

    Won't happen. Your plan will grow them, but by all means keep on. I give $#@!s about anyone's friends or family but my own these days. Enjoy the waste of tax dollars and life.

    Most likely but we would do the same even if we implemented the strategy you posed.
    Not unless there was public support. This is why people talk on forums to increase and expand ideas and explain why we should or shouldn't do things.

    Don't talk about it if you don't want. I choose to talk about it.


    Agreed but the resources at stake would have a global impact. I also happen to believe in the principles of an ally.
    All of our so-called allies except maybe the UK and Canada have been a drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal Mother View Post
    The IP were sponsored and equipped by the US. The citizens bought their own weapons. Also 270 million guns in the US. 340 million people.

    **shrugs**
    A mob of people without intelligence, air support, supply support would be like a day at the paintball field.


    And? Like I said I saw Iraqi women holding AKs. We can learn here.
    Wont stop an attack.

    Or not. I don't care really what happens to the apathetic all that much.
    I tend to care about all Americans.


    Sure which is why we didn't need the Patriot Act and why we don't need to change anything except our vigilance.
    Agree on the PA. Disagree that we don't need to change anything.


    lol, ok.

    Won't happen. Your plan will grow them, but by all means keep on. I give $#@!s about anyone's friends or family but my own these days. Enjoy the waste of tax dollars and life.
    While I agree that it won't happen it doesn't mean it couldn't.

    Not unless there was public support. This is why people talk on forums to increase and expand ideas and explain why we should or shouldn't do things.

    Don't talk about it if you don't want. I choose to talk about it.
    Public support would be behind it if a large event took place and most likely it will. See 9/11.

    All of our so-called allies except maybe the UK and Canada have been a drain.
    The idea that an ally has to give more than get isn't the definition of an ally.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal Mother View Post
    Drone.



    Send them Miley Cyrus to keep.



    Give them the Kardassians.



    Blow up helicopter and send them a box of $#@!.



    Yes, but burritos.

    You should up the ante with Justin Bieber as well.
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    Ephesians 6:12

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    Pretty much the plan I've advocated.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    The best thing to do would to be to get totally out of the Middle East, tell ISIS to have at it as long as it's on their land, and warn them that if they bring it here, they get massacred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That's one strategy, letting that region take care of its own issues, I think worth following to see where it goes but I don't have the experience of fighting in the ME that I think you do, so some questions...

    From your experience and knowledge of the area, please elaborate on that point: Do you think the nations of what was Iraq can fight ISIS? DO you think they're willing? Do you think Iran would join in? Why not other nations in the area, Saudi Arabia for instance?

    The Sunni tribes turned on and almost destroyed the parent to ISIL, al Qaeda in Iraq. They could do it again if the tribes worked together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Sunni tribes turned on and almost destroyed the parent to ISIL, al Qaeda in Iraq. They could do it again if the tribes worked together.
    That seems to be a hard wired show stopper for this culture. They just don't work & play well together.
    My beliefs are a distillation of what I was taught as a child and what I observe as an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal Mother View Post
    Give me an example and I'll tell you what we should do.
    What do we do if ISIL hits us with germ warfare, or suicide bombers in dozens of major cities simultaneously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    "Sacrifices to our easy lifestyle"?

    That last thing we need is for our kids to:

    A) watch their rights erode
    B) Be afraid of an invisible boogie man. When I was in school it was the threat of a nuke attack.
    C) Sit on the sidelines and wait for an attack we know will come eventually
    4) watch them go hungry because of the inevitable shortage of oil that would result.
    Well, how about releasing the clamps on all of the alternative energy patents that were bought up by big oil/government. There are millions of them that have be squelched over the years because they posed a threat to the status quo.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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