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  1. 09-11-2014, 09:38 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    The bible is not fictional, it exists.
    Yes ?

    Besides Pontius Pilate ... which biblical character has been discovered / proved to have existed ?
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    I have watched two different demonstrations on light propagation that contradict each other. Not being an astrophysicist I have no way of digesting this kind of conflict. My position is we don't have as many answers as we thought we did.
    My beliefs are a distillation of what I was taught as a child and what I observe as an adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    Correct ... all astrophysicists from Einstein to Hawking cannot explain the universe ... it had to be *created* ... so through science, they attempt to prove the existence of God.

    Now, they call God simply a *supreme being* ... which can never be confused with an old white humanoid you see in the Bible.

    No, that was not my point at all. Like many neoatheists you begin with a fundamental misunderstanding of what faith and belief in a Creator is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    Yes ?

    Besides Pontius Pilate ... which biblical character has been discovered / proved to have existed ?
    That is a very long list. Do your own research.
    My beliefs are a distillation of what I was taught as a child and what I observe as an adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    No, that was not my point at all. Like many neoatheists you begin with a fundamental misunderstanding of what faith and belief in a Creator is.
    The bible is a book of faith ... rules for the moral man ... this is because it was most likely written by a persecuted christian or Jew who lived long enough to witness and write of the barbarity of the Roman Empire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    You read that in a fictional book called the Bible.
    Try reading the real one, I'm sure it's better than that fictional one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    God in no way can be human to *create all of all* ... get over it.
    English please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matalese View Post
    Really? Hmmm I thoughts we wuz created by him in his image, thought I read thar somewhere!
    Which us?

    Now, our our potential?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polecat View Post
    That is a very long list. Do your own research.
    My wisecrack zoomed over his head but he's hell bent on discrediting the bible so much that he's probably frothing right now.
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    We done talking about the expansion of the universe?
    My beliefs are a distillation of what I was taught as a child and what I observe as an adult.
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