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    Greatest people in history: Gathered into one group at the right place at the right time. Men of exceptional character, faith, integrity, intelligence, vision. The Founders of the United States. The signers of the Declaration of Independence/the authors of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    Greatest people in history: Gathered into one group at the right place at the right time. Men of exceptional character, faith, integrity, intelligence, vision. The Founders of the United States. The signers of the Declaration of Independence/the authors of the Constitution.
    this ^^^^^^
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    Another to be Considered would be Charlemagne.
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    He is known as the Father of Europe.....

    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Charlemagne

    Grandson of Charles Martel.....The Hammer!
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    I think Charlemagne is a pivotal figure in early European history but where do we draw the line? I mean we can name important historical figures all day but how do we determine the "greatest" personages of all time? IMO, Jesus of Nazareth, Paul the Apostle, Columbus and a few of the other we mentioned qualify in so far as they were helped inaugurate a new age.
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    I would say he was what helped the the Age of Reason come into play for Europe and the Church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I think Charlemagne is a pivotal figure in early European history but where do we draw the line? I mean we can name important historical figures all day but how do we determine the "greatest" personages of all time? IMO, Jesus of Nazareth, Paul the Apostle, Columbus and a few of the other we mentioned qualify in so far as they were helped inaugurate a new age.

    Myself I think those that affected the known World for their time and that of the future. Would qualify as the greatest.

    Although shouldn't we look at the specific act of Martel. As if he did not check the Muslim advance and stuff it in it's tracks. Things could be whole lot different for Europe and those around it. Which wouldn't that have affected life differently for those upon that continent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Myself I think those that affected the known World for their time and that of the future. Would qualify as the greatest.

    Although shouldn't we look at the specific act of Martel. As if he did not check the Muslim advance and stuff it in it's tracks. Things could be whole lot different for Europe and those around it. Which wouldn't that have affected life differently for those upon that continent?
    The thing is that we could say this about a whole host of people.

    Anyway, some argue that the Battle of Tours never actually happened or that it was small skirmish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The thing is that we could say this about a whole host of people.

    Anyway, some argue that the Battle of Tours never actually happened or that it was small skirmish.
    Whats your take on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Whats your take on it?
    I couldn't say one way or the other. I think something happened but I do think it's possible that a skirmish in the Poitiers area took on legendary proportions while in reality there was a serious of engagements over several years or longer in which the Muslims were stymied. I read a theory regarding what I described in Military History Quarterly. I'll post the details when I get a chance. I still have the magazine.
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