Alabama Conservatives

[Common Sense]

Advocates of less government are being labeled statists now?

I think what they are saying is that the Bush type Reps do not shrink govt at all.

[Gunny]

Advocates of less government are being labeled statists now?

What's the difference between a Democrat and a Republican? Seems to me either one will tell you whatever you want to hear to get your vote.

[Captain Obvious]

What's the difference between a Democrat and a Republican? Seems to me either one will tell you whatever you want to hear to get your vote.

Special interest representation - one of the biggest (if not the biggest) problem with our political system.

Don't stay up late waiting for reform to start any time soon.

[Captain Obvious]

So advocating less government is the same as being assigned to a collective by the government?

The point, you missed.

[zelmo1234]

The GOP needs to get out of our bedrooms (social conservatism is dead) and get back into fiscal conservatism.

And they need to be loyal to their conservative base regardless of who Democrats are pandering to.

A huge part of their base is social conservative.

What they can do is produce a plan of what they will accomplish and leave the Social issues off of that plan , while still appointing pro life and traditional marriage judges. and taking that stance on the soap box.

Neither party has an idea of what to do and that is likely because we are so far down the rabbit hole, the party that finally tells the people the truth and comes up with a plan is likely to be the long term winner.

[Mac-7]

I think what they are saying is that the Bush type Reps do not shrink govt at all.

I agree.

rereading the original quote I overlooked the key word "establishment."

the republican establishment do represent bigger government and are constantly beating down the true conservative rebels in the congress.

Originally Posted by Peter1469
The fact is there is little to no difference between the establishments of both parties. And too many people call themselves conservatives when they should be stating proudly that they are statists.

[Common Sense]

The biggest problem for the GOP and both parties really, is no one is interested in governing anymore. They are only interested in getting elected.

[Captain Obvious]

A huge part of their base is social conservative.

What they can do is produce a plan of what they will accomplish and leave the Social issues off of that plan , while still appointing pro life and traditional marriage judges. and taking that stance on the soap box.

Neither party has an idea of what to do and that is likely because we are so far down the rabbit hole, the party that finally tells the people the truth and comes up with a plan is likely to be the long term winner.

I know that but this is the slippery slope the GOP needs to consider.

They haven't divorced themselves from social conservatism entirely nor have they divorced themselves from fiscal conservatism either.

They are pandering to the moderates - ie: social conservative issues.

If fiscal conservatism is appropriate it will sell itself. Abandoning social conservatism appeals to moderates.

Do you believe that the religious right votes democrat if social conservatism is put on the back burner? No, they just don't vote for the most part.

[Chris]

The biggest problem for the GOP and both parties really, is no one is interested in governing anymore. They are only interested in getting elected.

People seem to be growing weary of being governed so much as well. The government--Dem and Rep--sticking its nose into every nook and cranny of our lives is the problem.

[Mainecoons]

And they basically spend all their time and energy doing so. Particularly the House.