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    "Chelsea" Manning

    So the guy steals and leaks top secret classified information. Gets busted. Gets tossed in jail. And now wants the U.S. taxpayer to pay for his sex change.

    The fact that this lawsuit even got this far is distressing.

    Chelsea Manning sues to get transgender medical treatment
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
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    He's in a military prison. The answer would be "NO". Let him be someone $#@! in prison, but that doesn't mean the military should have to fund a sex change for him. He joined as a MAN and he was a man for years. Now he's in prison and decides he wants to have a cutadicktoffme? Ain't happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    So the guy steals and leaks top secret classified information. Gets busted. Gets tossed in jail. And now wants the U.S. taxpayer to pay for his sex change.

    The fact that this lawsuit even got this far is distressing.



    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
    I agree. Nothing more than yet another grandstand play by the ACLU to get more legislation from the bench.

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    I would like to know if there is anyone on this board that would actually support him in his law suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    I would like to know if there is anyone on this board that would actually support him in his law suit.
    I might. It's a complicated issue where gender is concerned, and if someone legitimately feels like they were meant to be a woman then they should be able to make that change. Of course, I think he should be billed for it privately and it would complicate his prison time, but still. From what I understand it is severely psychologically distressing to people who feel they're in the wrong body and I can get that to some degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    I might. It's a complicated issue where gender is concerned, and if someone legitimately feels like they were meant to be a woman then they should be able to make that change. Of course, I think he should be billed for it privately and it would complicate his prison time, but still. From what I understand it is severely psychologically distressing to people who feel they're in the wrong body and I can get that to some degree.

    Billed privately? Who is going to give him the credit to bill him when he is in Federal Prison for the next xxx years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Billed privately? Who is going to give him the credit to bill him when he is in Federal Prison for the next xxx years.
    Right. But I'm sure that there are work programs of some kind where he makes the money to buy various things they sell in prison, (commissary? I think that's what it's called). If he pays privately X amount for the entire time he's in prison I would guess that it would add up. I do think the hormones should be covered by the prison system, but not necessarily the surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    I might. It's a complicated issue where gender is concerned, and if someone legitimately feels like they were meant to be a woman then they should be able to make that change. Of course, I think he should be billed for it privately and it would complicate his prison time, but still. From what I understand it is severely psychologically distressing to people who feel they're in the wrong body and I can get that to some degree.
    He joined the military as a man. He got busted and sent to prison as a man. NOW suddenly he's a woman? I'm thinking he could have taken care of that sex change thingy with whatever he was getting paid for his disclosure of classified information at any time.

    IMO, this all about attention, and the ACLU is more than willing to piggyback.

    I personally could give a crap less about any mental anguish a traitor suffer.

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    Private insurance will not pay for such surgery (elective) so why would he expect the prison system to pay for it? He needs to do like others who want this procedure. Save up the money and pay in advance.

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