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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrose View Post
    Double bull$#@!!!
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    And I'm arguing that they do. The second they arrest you. "Rights" are law. Disobey them, you lose them, by law.

    I find it disturbing that you think our continuously diminishing "Rights" come from anything other than our government? As equally disturbing is you don't see the selectivity of enforcement based on politics.

    No one is taking away anyone's rights. He forfeit them. And he should NOT be allowed to speak, and these morons that want him to should be shipped to Africa to assist the Ebola personnel.
    How are you a conservative, when you reject the very founding principle of our nation, our fight for independence, and our constitution?
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Anyone who has followed this case over the decades knows good and well that Mumia's trial was clearly rigged against him. It has been proven that police falsified all evidence presented in his trial, from the murder weapon to the "eye witnesses" (who were paid to say what they did), that the judge in his trial was a racist known for throwing around the N-word...and of course, this being America, he found himself facing an all-white jury rather than a jury of his peers (and we know THAT goes) and not even allowed to attend most of his own trial. There has never been a shred of real evidence of Mumia's guilt. To that end, everyone from Amnesty International to the Catholic Church has considered Mumia a political prisoner (incarcerated for being a former, and vocal, Black Panther) who should be freed for decades now. I too believe he should be freed.
    Can't Amnesty get him a new trial? I know its tough, but this sounds like a case where that should happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Can't Amnesty get him a new trial? I know its tough, but this sounds like a case where that should happen
    Bull$#@!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Yes they do. As does the Federal government. The second they place ANYONE under arrest, they are violating "innocent until proven guilty". Arrest and detainment is the presumption of guilt.

    How far do you want to go into this?

    You're incarcerated, you have no rights. Now you can talk the big talk all you want, but the fact is, you have no rights. And I'm okay with that. But allowing someone to selectively have rights is BS. If this was that white cop in Missouri, nobody'd give a damn what he had to say.




    Actually, most people do not become aware of their rights until they are incarcerated. The right to due process for example.

    Convicted felons lose some of their Constitutional rights in some states. The right to vote, carry a firearm and some licenses are lost. Some one time offenders can petition the court to regain these rights.

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