Life after death?

[Ngc1514]

The important part of your post was "life as we know it..." You are falling back on the fine tuning argument. It reduces to "if x was just a little different, life as we know it would not exist." X can be any of a number of different physical or chemical properties. It's an argument that boils down to "Life would not exist if life could not exist." Not a very useful observation.

The whole issue of fine tuning disappears if modern cosmological hypotheses about an infinite number of universes becomes testable and verified. Searches are underway for possible signs of universe interactions in the cosmic microwave background radiation.

You might try Stenger's "The Fallacy of Fine Tuning."

I'm still waiting for an answer of who pronounced Betty dead.

[Bob]

Why?

@Ngc1514

Why I believe Betty Eadie? Why would I believe you. Why believe del. Why believe Obama.

All good questions. It is an accumulation of seeing her on TV tell the entire story. Then to make certain, I bought her book. I like books to use as reference. When I bought her book, the internet was not populated with all kinds of evidence.

Betty was not religious. Betty felt harmed by religion as a growing up girl. She was abused by Nuns. She was not a member of a church based on attendance. She was raised a Catholic but It is not clear that mattered.

[Bob]

The important part of your post was "life as we know it..." You are falling back on the fine tuning argument. It reduces to "if x was just a little different, life as we know it would not exist." X can be any of a number of different physical or chemical properties. It's an argument that boils down to "Life would not exist if life could not exist." Not a very useful observation.

The whole issue of fine tuning disappears if modern cosmological hypotheses about an infinite number of universes becomes testable and verified. Searches are underway for possible signs of universe interactions in the cosmic microwave background radiation.

You might try Stenger's "The Fallacy of Fine Tuning."

I'm still waiting for an answer of who pronounced Betty dead.

I only added that as a condition of life as WE know it. I am not ruling out some life that deviates from my commentary that was backed up by science. I offered you a fine book on abiogenesis. I offered you something off the internet.

I did reply to why. @Ngc1514

[Ngc1514]

"Her doctors" is a bit general. I am curious about who that doctor might have been and whether he or she corroborates Betty's story. From what I've read, Betty was supposedly dead for 5 hours and there were no corroborating witnesses. I find that highly improbable.

[Bob]

I have asked my library to purchase the Fallacy of Fine tuning.

[Codename Section]

I had an NDE in Afghanistan. I could tell you what people were doing 50 yards away from my body. Then I felt like something was dragging me back.

[Dark Mistress]

I had an NDE in Afghanistan. I could tell you what people were doing 50 yards away from my body. Then I felt like something was dragging me back.

Perhaps your mission in this life is not yet finished? @Codename Section

[Codename Section]

Maybe not.

[Dark Mistress]

Maybe not.

I think certainly not. But that's just me

[Ngc1514]

I only added that as a condition of life as WE know it. I am not ruling out some life that deviates from my commentary that was backed up by science. I offered you a fine book on abiogenesis. I offered you something off the internet.I did reply to why. @Ngc1514

Abiogenesis is an interesting topic but ultimately fruitless as a means of determining how we came about. Unless we build a time machine and go back to the moment a molecule learns the trick of self-replication - we will never know how life started on this planet. We could watch the process on other planets and create life in hundreds of labs, but we could never be sure what we were watching was the process that kick started biology on the earth.

I did put Schopf's book on my reading list and thanks for the recommendation. I'll read Eadie's book after we join the library.