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    Only way to beat ISIS?

    There’s Only One Way to Beat ISIS: Work with Assad and Iran

    Earlier this week, outside Washington, the Obama team hosted senior military leaders from nations pledged to help fight the so-called Islamic State, in a mission the Pentagon is now calling “Operation Inherent Resolve.” Representatives from 21 of the 60-odd countries appeared. Everyone, of course, was too polite to inquire about the embarrassing number of absentees. Nor did they comment on how little these partners have contributed to the war effort thus far, or on the fact that no new serious help has been promised. Least surprising of all was the absence of the only two nations that could help fight the jihadis now and in a tangible form.

    In the short term the only way to check ISIS, as the self-declared caliphate is widely known, is for the United States to work with Bashar Assad’s Syria, and with Iran. It is a tricky and perilous path, but there are no realistic alternatives.
    There's Only One Way to Beat ISIS - Daily Beast

    Interesting article. I'm not really convinced it's the only way to beat ISIS but I also don't think it's going to be useful to exclude the Syrian and Iranian governments.

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    The problem is the more we appear to assist the Shia, the more Sunni's ally themselves with the Islamic State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    There's Only One Way to Beat ISIS - Daily Beast

    Interesting article. I'm not really convinced it's the only way to beat ISIS but I also don't think it's going to be useful to exclude the Syrian and Iranian governments.

    The only real way to "beat ISIS " along with the "terror groups" which preceded it and those yet to follow : Is to stop creating them and stop giving them reasons to act out towards us. To do this we must stop $#@!ing with internal politics in the ME and develop our own energy sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    The only real way to "beat ISIS " along with the "terror groups" which preceded it and those yet to follow : Is to stop creating them and stop giving them reasons to act out towards us. To do this we must stop $#@!ing with internal politics in the ME and develop our own energy sources.
    They act out versus all their neighbors. So, who else should take this tactic? Israel? Should the Jewish State just quit 'creating them?' How about Assad, what was he doing initially for these extremists to attempt his downfall, isn't he creating terrorism? They slice heads off Muslims, Christians, Jews, reporters, Americans, British, it seems naming a Teddy Bear Mohammed or writing 'Satanic Verses' or whatever that Rushdie dude wrote. Anti-Muslim videos enrages them, they murder Catholic Nuns and Priests, who do these Cats get along with? You're trying to explain to us they'd live in peace and harmony if not for western intervention, where do you see proof of that?

    Oops.

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    ISIS using sex slaves to encourage snitching...

    How ISIS rewards its fighters: Snitch on your brother, win three sex slaves!
    Friday 30th September, 2016 - In a tell-all interview, a captured ISIS fighter has made some shocking revelations about the functioning of the world’s most dreadful terror group.
    The captured jihadi fighter, identified as Abu Al-Mughira Al-Muhajer was one amongst the numerous ISIS fighters arrested at the Al-Sham front in Aleppo, Syria. He made the revelations in a TV interview in the United Arab Emirates. Amongst the most shocking revelation made by Al-Muhajer was that that terror group would reward its fighters with sex slaves. Al-Muhajer recalled that he had helped capture his own brother who was trying to flee the militant regime and in return for his noble act, ISIS awarded him three slave girls.

    He added that ISIS would buy these women from a slave market in Raqqa, Syria for anywhere between $250 and $500. He said in the chilling interview, “Whenever they took captives, they would bring slave girls, and they would place them on the slave market in Raqqa. Afterwards, they would sell them for dollars. Their price would range from $250 to $500. The Islamic State would buy slave girls and give them as rewards.”


    Detailing the incident involving him, Al-Muhajer said, “After I informed on my brother who wanted to leave ISIS, I was rewarded with three slave girls - one from Damascus and two from Homs. All of them had been beaten on their backs. They told me that the girl from Damascus was a Yazidi and that the two girls from Homs were Christians.” The ethnic group, Yazidis was mentioned in the statement by Abu Al-Mughira Al-Muhajer. This group is known for committing horrific genocide, killing 5,000, according to a UN estimate.

    The jihadi said that he had been lied to by the ISIS commanders when it came to the women. He stated, “They told me that the had been captured, but it turned out they were wives of Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters from the Islamic Front. So I went to the Emir and told him that they were not slave girls or anything. He admitted that they were wives of FSA fighters, but said that they too needed to be captured.”

    http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/2...ree-sex-slaves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    ISIS using sex slaves to encourage snitching...

    How ISIS rewards its fighters: Snitch on your brother, win three sex slaves!
    Friday 30th September, 2016 - In a tell-all interview, a captured ISIS fighter has made some shocking revelations about the functioning of the world’s most dreadful terror group.
    I really wish your necroposting at least stuck with the OP.
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    US Troops to Remain in Iraq and Syria...

    US Troops to Remain in Iraq and Syria to Ensure ‘Enduring Defeat’ of ISIS

    August 20, 2018 – Two days after the State Department reiterated that U.S. forces will “remain in Syria until the enduring defeat of ISIS,” the spokesman for the U.S.-led anti-ISIS coalition made a similar commitment regarding Iraq. "We’ll keep troops there [in Iraq] as long as we think they’re needed,” Reuters quoted Col. Sean Ryan as telling reporters at the U.S. Embassy in Abu Dhabi. “The main reason, after ISIS is defeated militarily, is the stabilization efforts and we still need to be there for that, so that’s one of the reasons we’ll maintain a presence,” Ryan added.
    There are currently some 5,200 U.S. troops in Iraq and around 2,000 in Syria. NATO leaders at their recent summit in Brussels agreed to set up a non-combat training mission, to train Iraqis to better equip their own troops, in a bid to prevent the Sunni jihadists of ISIS or similar terrorist groups from re-emerging. Canada offered to head up the mission, and Australia, Finland and Sweden were first to make contribution commitments. The move came after Defense Secretary James Mattis early this year – at Iraq’s request – called on NATO colleagues to help efforts to stabilize Iraq, as combat operations against ISIS were being wound down. Ryan said Sunday that, depending on when NATO partners’ forces arrive to take up the new training mission, the number of U.S. troops in Iraq could be reduced.


    In Syria meanwhile, U.S. troops are helping the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) mop up ISIS remnants in the area of Hajin, a town near the border with Iraq. The ongoing “Operation Roundup,” launched last May 1, is designed to defeat ISIS in the remaining territory it holds in the area known as the Middle Euphrates River valley. Ryan said the SDF forces were preparing for the Hajin offensive, but that progress has been hampered by a large numbers of IEDs planted by ISIS. Another tactic being deployed by the remaining terrorists is the use of caves and underground tunnels and shelters. Many of the ISIS terrorists left in Hajin are foreign fighters whose “ideology is to stay and fight till the end,” he was quoted as saying. ‘This mission is ongoing and is not over’



    U.S. soldiers fire a Howitzer M-777-A2 artillery piece, providing fire support for Iraqi security forces near al-Qaim on November 7, 2017. Al-Qaim, one of the last ISIS strongholds in Iraq, was liberated the following day.



    On Friday, administration officials underlined that the U.S. mission in Syria continues. “We’re remaining in Syria; the focus is the enduring defeat of ISIS,” U.S. special envoy for the anti-ISIS coalition, Brett McGurk, said during a teleconference briefing at the State Department. “We still have not launched the final phase to defeat the physical caliphate,” he continued, saying that when it comes, “it will be a very significant military operation, because we have a significant number of ISIS fighters holed up in a final area of the Middle Euphrates Valley.” Even once the last area is taken, McGurk said, “you have to train local forces to hold the ground to make sure that the area remains stabilized, so ISIS cannot return. So this mission is ongoing and is not over.”


    Also taking part in the briefing, Acting Assistant Secretary David Satterfield stressed that the policy was President Trump’s. “There should be no doubt as to the position of the president with respect to the broader issue of the U.S. enduring presence in Syria,” Sattersfield said. “We’re there for the defeat, the enduring defeat of ISIS.” A similar message came from State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert, who said in a statement that Trump “has made clear that we are prepared to remain in Syria until the enduring defeat of ISIS, and we remain focused on ensuring the withdrawal of Iranian forces and their proxies.” The reiteration of policy came as the department announced that coalition partners – with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in the lead – have offered $300 million to help stabilize the Syrian territory won back from ISIS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    There's Only One Way to Beat ISIS - Daily Beast

    Interesting article. I'm not really convinced it's the only way to beat ISIS but I also don't think it's going to be useful to exclude the Syrian and Iranian governments.
    Well, Obama certainly proved himself wrong on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    There's Only One Way to Beat ISIS - Daily Beast

    Interesting article. I'm not really convinced it's the only way to beat ISIS but I also don't think it's going to be useful to exclude the Syrian and Iranian governments.

    You assume we rally want to totally beat the boggieman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    Well, Obama certainly proved himself wrong on this one.
    This one? What was he ever right about?
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