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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Washington establishment is just two sides of the same Statist coin.
    I have used the same line for years except in the original version it is that fascists and socialists are just two sides of the same big government coin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    I have used the same line for years except in the original version it is that fascists and socialists are just two sides of the same big government coin.
    We are talking about the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    Your history is warped.
    Not really.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We are talking about the US.
    We have fascists and socialists in the US.

    thinking of it in economic terms most liberal democrats grew up as socialists who believed government should own all the wealth and distribute it fairly.

    but libs have realized that managing the means of production that creates wealth is hard work and libs are not very good at it.

    so they are now economic fascists who allow private citizens to produce the wealth while government taxes the profits for its own use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    We have fascists and socialists in the US.

    thinking of it in economic terms most liberal democrats grew up as socialists who believed government should own all the wealth and distribute it fairly.

    but libs have realized that managing the means of production that creates wealth is hard work and libs are not very good at it.

    so they are now economic fascists who allow private citizens to produce the wealth while government taxes the profits for its own use.

    So you agree that the establishment of both main parties are two sides of the same coin. Great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    So you agree that the establishment of both main parties are two sides of the same coin. Great.
    I have never defended the republican leadership in congress today.

    what I have been trying to tell you is that the republican base agrees with libertarians 80% of the time.

    which means the repub leadership can be improved.

    but I don't think you want to see a better Republican Party.

    you are really working for the democrats and just won't admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    Very few Americans subscribe to the extreme "non intervention" aka isolationist position of the libertarians.
    It's hard to believe some people persist in conflating noninterventionism and isolationism even after it's been explained clearly. Neocons with myopic vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It's hard to believe some people persist in conflating noninterventionism and isolationism even after it's been explained clearly. Neocons with myopic vision.
    It has been explained by isolationists who want to be called non interventionists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    I have never defended the republican leadership in congress today.

    what I have been trying to tell you is that the republican base agrees with libertarians 80% of the time.

    which means the repub leadership can be improved.

    but I don't think you want to see a better Republican Party.

    you are really working for the democrats and just won't admit it.


    I guess when you can't argue with other people say, you find an escape in telling them what they think instead. Same with your made up definitions for socialism and fascism. Somehow I doubt you make it up but just repeat talking points you hear but don't grasp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    It has been explained by isolationists who want to be called non interventionists.
    Yea, right, mac, uh huh, anything you say.
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