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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    Yes, of course. But there is a difference in definition. Man has the ability to reason, and understand mankind's effect on the world around them. Nature doesn't have the cognitive ability to understand it's impact in that manner.

    Understanding and maintaining the balance between mankind and nature other than mankind, falls to humans.
    Correct. Seals don't understand that they are depleting their own food source. We can help correct this by thinning the seal population and help maintain their ability to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Correct. Seals don't understand that they are depleting their own food source. We can help correct this by thinning the seal population and help maintain their ability to survive.
    Just as with those who claim culling the herds of deer that are overpopulating is a good thing for their survival, they aren't killing off the old, the sick, the weak. They take the prize bucks and the healthy females.

    Nature does a very effective balancing act. While it isn't a quick response, when there is insufficient food source, the female fertility goes down. I would guess that it would be applicable to seals also, I know it applies to other aquatic life.

    Humans are the factor in a number of species that have over populated by removing or reducing natural predators. Then humans try and claim they are fixing it by killing off the healthy of the species. Wash and repeat.....
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    We have the ability to manage our game and wildlife resources in a responsible manner. In fact we are obligated to do so. Our incompetent fisheries management practices are leading to the elimination of salmon in the pacific NW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    Just as with those who claim culling the herds of deer that are overpopulating is a good thing for their survival, they aren't killing off the old, the sick, the weak. They take the prize bucks and the healthy females.

    Nature does a very effective balancing act. While it isn't a quick response, when there is insufficient food source, the female fertility goes down. I would guess that it would be applicable to seals also, I know it applies to other aquatic life.

    Humans are the factor in a number of species that have over populated by removing or reducing natural predators. Then humans try and claim they are fixing it by killing off the healthy of the species. Wash and repeat.....
    Actually it is usually disease or predators that control the population not fertility.

    Thinning the heard is just like thinning the seed sprouts in the garden. In hunting the hunter is generally going to take whatever looks large enough or meets minimum characteristics. He is not going to let 10 good deer walk by and wait for the right one, or the freezer will be empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Actually it is usually disease or predators that control the population not fertility.

    Thinning the heard is just like thinning the seed sprouts in the garden. In hunting the hunter is generally going to take whatever looks large enough or meets minimum characteristics. He is not going to let 10 good deer walk by and wait for the right one, or the freezer will be empty.
    State Wildlife agencies will put out salt peter and salt blocks with additional chemicals used to reduce fertility. Where I lived in Pennsylvania, we bordered back to 5500 acres of State game land, and they definitely used fertility reducing as part of their management program.

    Yes, they will up the licenses issued, but as I stated earlier, hunters will select healthier deer. I don't believe they take 'what strolls by' (seasons apply) and sick and/or old deer don't usually stock the freezer either.
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