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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    Time for a bump on this thread....these treaties are a big deal to our economy, sovereignty, and jobs.
    Please read the OP.
    From where we sit in NZ, your treaties (especially the proposed TPP) are designed to exploit other countries to suit your own industries and other interests.

    You will not negotiate your barriers against our dairy industry (one of the largest in the world); you want special arrangements for your entertainment industries that will harshly penalise any infringements of what you define as "copyright"; you want to destroy a central government pharmaceutical control agency so that you can swamp our market with expensive proprietary drugs; you want to over-turn sovereign policies that control your tobacco companies.

    There is no way we should be interested in your "treaties".
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    These UN treaties are still being pursued by the administration. The OP details them.

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    No interest? Sorry to see that. Obama is still pursuing the small arms treaty over the objections of Congress. I think the 2nd amendment matters. And the first, and the fourth, and so on. Obama thinks the Constitution/BOR is obsolete. He's wrong - we need them now, more than ever.

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    As long as the Republicans can hold 41 seats in the Senate it is likely that they will not get any of these treaties ratified.

    However, you are goign to see a huge push for arms control from the left. they are at the point where the public is turnning against the agenda again, and as you can see by the posts here from many on the left, the hate and anger of those that oppose them is primed and ready to go.

    There is a true belief on the left that they know better what is good for the people.

    It is my opnion that if the Republicans can get a true conservative through the primaries. that they will win and it is likely that the true liberals will be on the outside looking in for decades. tog et back into the Whitehouse they will need to elect a center left canidate, that governs denter right, like Clinton did!

    So 2 to 4 decades before they are afforded thier chance again! Once they are offered that chance agan they do not want to give it up. So it is in vact critical that they get the country disarmed in that time period! It is only with disarmerment that they can truely force their aganda on the population the next time they get their day iin the Sun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    There is a true belief on the left that they know better what is good for the people.
    This control-freak mentality of the Left IS the problem.

    I wonder where we'll be in 3 more years....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    This is a serious issue that many do not know about.

    Obama is planning to ratify five treaties that give away our sovereignty to UN groups. They will give the UN authority over the US, our property rights, and our money.

    ONE The Law of the Sea Treaty

    This has already been signed, and Obama was going to have Richard Lugar (who was just defeated) help him get it ratified. That's right, a RINO repuplican was going to help Obama give away our sovereignty. This treaty forces us to give the UN half of our royalties from offshore drilling. Then the UN would give that money to whomever they see fit. We would get one vote out of 160 as to where the money goes. And we'd have to give our (offshore) drilling technology to any nation that wants it - free.

    TWO Outer Space Code of Conduct

    Using the excuse that we can't let space junk build up in space...the EU has persuaded (bet that wasn't hard) Hilary Clinton to negotiate a code of conduct. That code would ban anything that might generate any debris in outer space (littering).
    Here's the real deal....to prevent the US from placing anti-missile missiles on platforms in space. That leaves us defenseless from missile attacks by N Korea, Iran, China or whomever. Lefties of all types had a hissy when Bush opted out of the ABM treaty banning weapons of defense. Now they're trying to get it back in under a phony-baloney "code of conduct" to prevent littering.

    THREE International Criminal Court

    Hilary Clinton has reversed Bush's policy and has been negotiating over U.S. participation in an international court. Euro-leftists who are sponsoring the court are trying to craft a new "crime of aggression"; basically going to war without the approval of the UN. If we go along with that, our president and Cabinet officials can be arrested and prosecuted criminally for going to war without U.N. approval. The court could even prosecute our Generals, soldiers or whomever they say was involved at their SOLE DISCRETION. Why does Hilary want to trust the UN to have real power over our president and our military??? Does she trust them? I don't. Do you?

    FOUR Rights of the Child

    A fourteen member court will be set up for this one. The draft for the treaty dictates that wealthy nations will be obligated to provide monies for housing, clothing, shoes, food, and schooling for kids in poor countries. This would dictate how much foreign aid we'd be obligated for - whether we could afford it or not - regardless of our struggling economy, our debt or whatever. And WE would have NO say in it. Euro-lefties are already using this in England to stop welfare cuts that England cannot afford to maintain...imagine that...Europe is dictating welfare obligations in England.

    FIVE Small-arms control

    Hilary is about to start negotiating on a global ban on the export of small arms. It would only apply to private citizens - so far - but most small-arms deals come from governments, specifically the US, Israel, China, and Russia. The treaty would enforce the requirement that each nation implement measures to STOP the exportation of small arms. It can easily be used to force a national registration of all guns AND ammo.

    Liberals and lefties of all types may applaud this, but it's giving up PERMANENTLY large portions of our sovereignty, money, and property rights. It will function as an amendment to our Constitution.

    What can we do to stop this? Tell everyone !!! Call your legislators. This is NOT a small matter.

    And shame on you , DICK Lugar for assisting Obama ins getting these ratified... you had to go, you traitor; don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
    oh no!!!!! the horror!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    These UN treaties are still being pursued by the administration. The OP details them.
    your description is irrelevant.

    how about a credible link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    your description is irrelevant.

    how about a credible link?
    I gave quite a few links on the first page of the thread, in post #3. I'll post them again for you.



    UN site, links to all treaties
    UN site, overview of all treaties

    FEULNER: Sink the Law of the Sea Treaty
    United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982
    Obama’s 'Law of the Sea' Treaty Spreads the Wealth Around
    The United Nations Law of the Sea Treaty Information Center
    Morning Bell: The Danger of Article 82 and Obama’s Latest Treaty

    International Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities
    Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies
    Pentagon Tentatively Endorses Code of Conduct in Space
    International Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities

    What is the International Criminal Court?
    U.S. WITHDRAWS FROM INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT TREATY(under Bush in 2002)
    The International Criminal Court vs. the American People
    International Courts and Tribunals

    Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights
    United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, (UNCRC)
    Convention on the Rights of the Child
    Pennsylvania Legislators Fight United Nations Effort to Strip Parental Rights
    United Nations Child Rights Treaty
    Obama Administration Seeks To Join U.N. Rights Of The Child Convention
    20 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE UN CONVENTION ON THE RIGHTS OF THE CHILD

    United Nations Small Arms Treaty
    U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
    United Nations Prepares to Finalize its Arms Trade Treaty
    Arms Trade Treaty
    Amendment to restrict funds for a UN arms trade treaty passes

    /edit
    Some of them mey no longer be available. I'll spend the next few minutes eliminating them from this list.

    /edit
    All but 2 of them were still available. I erased those 2.

    @jillian
    Last edited by Trinnity; 06-10-2013 at 04:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    I gave quite a few links on the first page of the thread, in post #3. I'll post them again for you.



    UN site, links to all treaties
    UN site, overview of all treaties

    FEULNER: Sink the Law of the Sea Treaty
    United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982
    Obama’s 'Law of the Sea' Treaty Spreads the Wealth Around
    The United Nations Law of the Sea Treaty Information Center
    Morning Bell: The Danger of Article 82 and Obama’s Latest Treaty

    International Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities
    Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies
    Pentagon Tentatively Endorses Code of Conduct in Space
    International Code of Conduct for Outer Space Activities

    What is the International Criminal Court?
    U.S. WITHDRAWS FROM INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT TREATY(under Bush in 2002)
    The International Criminal Court vs. the American People
    International Courts and Tribunals

    Boxer Seeks to Ratify U.N. Treaty That May Erode U.S. Rights
    United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, (UNCRC)
    Convention on the Rights of the Child
    Pennsylvania Legislators Fight United Nations Effort to Strip Parental Rights
    United Nations Child Rights Treaty
    Obama Administration Seeks To Join U.N. Rights Of The Child Convention
    20 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE UN CONVENTION ON THE RIGHTS OF THE CHILD

    United Nations Small Arms Treaty
    U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
    United Nations Prepares to Finalize its Arms Trade Treaty
    Arms Trade Treaty
    Amendment to restrict funds for a UN arms trade treaty passes

    /edit
    Some of them mey no longer be available. I'll spend the next few minutes eliminating them from this list.

    /edit
    All but 2 of them were still available. I erased those 2.

    @jillian
    the problem isn't the treaties...it's the assertion that they are harmful.

    harmful like encouraging handicapped access like we have here, internationally?

    that kind of harmful.

    oh...and your alleged forbes link on guns seems shot, too.

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    Kinda like when the TPP was announced and Americans started stomping around acting like it was bad for them. TPP is for US based corporations. It aims at makng all of our nations hell holes like America. America is already a hell hole and you are all happy to defend it on International Policy. Never shut up about how evilit is to all of you but cant believe that does evil all around the world.

    America should get rid of the UN and NATO and stop giving 'aid' and see how long it lasts. Get rid of the IMF too. These are all tools of your Imperial overlords and it is all done in your name....to us. We cant vote in US elections. Rome would extend citizenship to the west.

    Who runs America? Federal Reserve? Is Federal Reserve American? No! Why dont you start there?

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