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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    These are plastic microbeads. You can often find these in skin creams, face wash, and so on. These beads get washed down the drain and are incredibly difficult to filter out. They often times make their way to water systems and ultimately the rivers/ocean where many marine animals mistake them for food or ingest them without knowledge. FYI for you fish eaters out there whatever the fish in the ocean are eating, you are eating.

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    Ah, woman, vanity is thy name. These could be filtered out of waste water too but their use in the first place is just a marketing ploy and once this realized the practice will dissapear by itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polecat View Post
    You realize I hope that the issue here isn't the plastic. It is people that dispose of it carelessly. It is all 100% recyclable and should be handled in this manner. Would we go back to paper and cut down all the trees? Plastic is actually a good thing for the environment IF it is not mishandled. Banning its use is the wrong tactic.
    I've seen people leave the grocery store with two dozen or more plastic bags with a limited amount of things in them since the bags would rip. I worked at a grocery store in high school and was disgusted by the amount of plastic bags people would need to put their groceries in. They could have left the store with a half dozen reusable bags and that would have eliminated the need for any plastic bags at all. When you factor in that close to 90% of plastic bags are never recycled then action has to be taken in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    I simply don't care any more. And you shouldn't either. You don't eat fish anyway, you vegetarian you.
    The ability to eat them is not why I want to protect them from our trash
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    In my area the issue are the people who think recycling is a waste of time...and the slobs. The same people here who are complaining about the EPA are also complaining about the trash in the local rivers...go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    The ability to eat them is not why I want to protect them from our trash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polecat View Post
    You realize I hope that the issue here isn't the plastic. It is people that dispose of it carelessly. It is all 100% recyclable and should be handled in this manner. Would we go back to paper and cut down all the trees? Plastic is actually a good thing for the environment IF it is not mishandled. Banning its use is the wrong tactic.
    That's my problem with the issue. I personally recycle, I throw my trash away, and when I am done a cigarette I field dress it... have for years. But then you drive on any roadway and you see litter everywhere. Around here, all of our storm drains dump directly into the Chesapeake Bay. It disgusts me that no one seems to know how to take 2 seconds and throw something away, even if they don't recycle per say, at least put it somewhere besides out your car window at 50mph.

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    Trees are renewable if you purposefully grow fast growing trees for paper, bags, etc. Pawlonia reach maturity within 5-7 years.

    Plastics are petroleum based products and are just not good for you. I don't drink out of plastic. I pay more for non-petro products. I don't endorse the use of plastic, especially for women because the breakdown of plastic creates chemicals that your body mistakes for estrogen, promoting weight gain and breast cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    I've seen people leave the grocery store with two dozen or more plastic bags with a limited amount of things in them since the bags would rip. I worked at a grocery store in high school and was disgusted by the amount of plastic bags people would need to put their groceries in. They could have left the store with a half dozen reusable bags and that would have eliminated the need for any plastic bags at all. When you factor in that close to 90% of plastic bags are never recycled then action has to be taken in my opinion.
    I hope you can temper this to mean effective action and not some knee jerk reaction that compounds the problem. Remember, it is not the plastic bag. It is the people. What measures do you propose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    Trees are renewable if you purposefully grow fast growing trees for paper, bags, etc. Pawlonia reach maturity within 5-7 years.

    Plastics are petroleum based products and are just not good for you. I don't drink out of plastic. I pay more for non-petro products. I don't endorse the use of plastic, especially for women because the breakdown of plastic creates chemicals that your body mistakes for estrogen, promoting weight gain and breast cancer.

    I'd rather us create tree farms for paper sacs, and use glass again for bottles.
    I have reusable bags in the back of my car that are made of recycled material. I've had them since I got them when I worked at that grocery store. You can use two reusable bags in place of 5-10 plastic ones. Paper is better than plastic but having bags that you almost never have to replace is ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polecat View Post
    I hope you can temper this to mean effective action and not some knee jerk reaction that compounds the problem. Remember, it is not the plastic bag. It is the people. What measures do you propose?
    In my opinion reusable bags, or reusing bags, should be pushed more. I am perfectly fine banning plastic bags being used at places like grocery stores, restaurants, retail shops, and places like that, and I also think that there should be a charge if you need to use paper bags from the store if you don't bring your own bags when you go buy your groceries. Some people may find that to be totalitarian or something but I think it's logical and necessary.
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