Senate Torture Report

[Ethereal]

The Senate Report on CIA Interrogation Is About to Reignite Debate Over the Killing of Osama Bin Laden

By Jason Leopold
November 6, 2014 | 9:40 pm

A few days before the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, then President George W. Bush gave a speech in the East Room of the White House where, for the first time, he acknowledged that the CIA had been holding more than a dozen "high-value" detainees who were subjected to "tough" interrogation methods at secret prisons "outside of the United States."

Bush cited a number of terrorist plots that were thwarted after high-value captives were subjected to the CIA's interrogation regimen. One was an attempt in 2003 by al Qaeda terrorists to attack the US consulate in Karachi, Pakistan "using car bombs and motorcycle bombs."

In a long-awaited summary of a report on the CIA's detention and interrogation program, the Senate Committee on Intelligence dissects Bush's September 6, 2006 speech and reveals that the intelligence provided to Bush by the CIA about the Karachi operation was overstated. Interrogators, the summary asserts, could have obtained details about it without resorting to so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" (EITs).

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Despite the CIA's illegal attempts to obstruct the release of the torture report, it will be exposed to the world and the agency will come under intense scrutiny as a result.

It's long past due that they are held accountable for their actions. America cannot claim the moral high ground while it is torturing people in secret without trial. That is the mark of a totalitarian regime, not a western republic.

[Alyosha]

They will reveal only what they cannot suppress. Far more was done by them than anyone will ever know.

[Polecat]

The pretense of being just and moral is all we had left. When that's gone too what have we left?

[PolWatch]

The pretense of being just and moral is all we had left. When that's gone too what have we left?

we will be left with those who think any behavior is justified because 'they did it first', 'it will make us safer' and lots of other excuses. Who wants to live in a shining city on a hill anyway?

[Alyosha]

we will be left with those who think any behavior is justified because 'they did it first', 'it will make us safer' and lots of other excuses. Who wants to live in a shining city on a hill anyway?

When we lived in the Soviet Union we had this "dream" of America. It makes me very sad now to see it this way.

[Professor Peabody]

Just having Harry Reid as majority leader was torture enough.

[kentucky]

The future looks grim.
The government has been taken over by the elites. There is no stopping tyranny now. The 1% will go all the way to start a civil war and launch WWIII while bankrupting and enslaving the whole world.
Americans are stupid cowards and deserve everything coming to them.
Here's what to expect:
Americans will be forced to get a national ID card, passports will be revoked, and domestic travel permits will be required.
Every American will be required to submit a DNA sample, give fingerprints, get microchip implants, and be registered in a facial scan database.
Internet filters will first be required on all computers, mobile phones will be banned, and then the Internet will be shut down.
Free speech and protests will be illegal.
Reporters will be arrested.
Government loudspeakers will be installed on street corners to broadcast propaganda.
Newspapers, magazines, and TV and radio stations will be closed.
Churches will be closed.
Books will be burned.
All guns will be required to be registered and then banned.
Wiretapping will increase.
Neighborhood watch groups will be set up, undercover police will be everywhere, and warrantless home searches will become routine.
Taxes will be raised.
Cash will be banned, there will be negative interest rates, bank fees, bail-ins, capital controls, and gold will be outlawed.
Private property will be banned.
Torture and extra-judicial assassinations will become routine. Government drones and robots will patrol everywhere.
Lawyers will be arrested.
Elections will be canceled, juries will be banned, courts will have show trials, and congress will be eliminated.
Americans will be required to wear uniforms and attend study sessions. Concentration camps will be opened and Americans will be starved and killed.
The US will look like North Korea does today.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1618141
Since everything was illegal in the Soviet Union, Russians just gave up and the USSR collapsed.
Those who fail to learn history will be doomed to repeat it.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Despite the CIA's illegal attempts to obstruct the release of the torture report, it will be exposed to the world and the agency will come under intense scrutiny as a result.

It's long past due that they are held accountable for their actions. America cannot claim the moral high ground while it is torturing people in secret without trial. That is the mark of a totalitarian regime, not a western republic.

I think it's more likely that "Western Republics" have always been "totalitarian regimes" beneath the veneer, and the idea that America, even during its founding, was actually far different in practice is somewhat mythological. The line between a Republic and a totalitarian state is ambiguous at best.

[NapRover]

We didn't torture anyone, so it's a moot point.

[donttread]

Despite the CIA's illegal attempts to obstruct the release of the torture report, it will be exposed to the world and the agency will come under intense scrutiny as a result.

It's long past due that they are held accountable for their actions. America cannot claim the moral high ground while it is torturing people in secret without trial. That is the mark of a totalitarian regime, not a western republic.

It is said that a tortured person will tell you something, anything. It doesn't have to be true unless you pretty much already know the answer so you cannot be fooled. In that case there was no reason to torture to begin with.
I think the unwarranted invasion of Iraq based in part on information collected via water boarding was the ultimate statement on that. But then again psychopath's need jobs too.