A 3-Star General Explains 'Why We Lost' In Iraq, Afghanistan

[Peter1469]

they lost when they left conus in 2003

Untrue.

We defeated Iraq's military completely. We should have left and told them to act right or we would crush them again.

The money we spent on 10 years of occupation would have financed a dozen invasions and kick ass operations. That would have been a very low casualty count for the US. An extremely high casualty count for Iraq. Much fun. Just like Desert Storm.

Yet we decided to teach Jeffersonian Democracy to people who only think tribal. And their insurgents bled our military while the American people drooled on themselves thinking about democracy in the Middle East.

[Cigar]

The facts are the facts....................Obama caused these problems with his elementary approach to foreign policy primarily based on the fact he spent time in a muslim country as a child.

Jeez! It is like he hasn't been paying attention to history. These people do not respond to common sense, it has nothing to do with their distorted view of the world. You can't coach them into behaving. It all sounds great in a thesis paper but the real world is not a lab.

I will stipulate that you won't like anything President Obama does, or has done or ever will do.

I'm perfectly Ok with that.

[del]

Untrue.

We defeated Iraq's military completely. We should have left and told them to act right or we would crush them again.

The money we spent on 10 years of occupation would have financed a dozen invasions and kick ass operations. That would have been a very low casualty count for the US. An extremely high casualty count for Iraq. Much fun. Just like Desert Storm.

Yet we decided to teach Jeffersonian Democracy to people who only think tribal. And their insurgents bled our military while the American people drooled on themselves thinking about democracy in the Middle East.

we should have stayed the $#@! home. period.

[Peter1469]

we should have stayed the $#@! home. period.

Meh. Everyone loves a good kick ass party. Read Thunder Run. We $#@!ed them up so bad and so fast it was amazing. We broke their army. Then we should have left and told them to act right or we would do it again.

Much cheaper than occupation.

[del]

Meh. Everyone loves a good kick ass party. Read Thunder Run. We $#@!ed them up so bad and so fast it was amazing. We broke their army. Then we should have left and told them to act right or we would do it again.

Much cheaper than occupation.

hey, i'm glad you had a good time on my dime, but all in all, everybody would be in much better shape if we'd stayed the $#@! home.

[Peter1469]

hey, i'm glad you had a good time on my dime, but all in all, everybody would be in much better shape if we'd stayed the $#@! home.

Thanks.

But I disagree. Had Bush not occupied the place Americans would think he was one of the great military commanders in history.

[del]

Thanks.

But I disagree. Had Bush not occupied the place Americans would think he was one of the great military commanders in history.

yeah, right up there with reagan

[Peter1469]

yeah, right up there with reagan

And Reagan never occupied anyplace....

[del]

And Reagan never occupied anyplace....

whoooooosh