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Thread: Question: Why is it Black EYE Witnesses don't count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    So Eye Witnesses are now not hard evidence?
    Um...not really. Considering the fact that they can be manufactured as needed. That and eye witness testimony is some of the most unreliable and biased data that you can get.

    Just sayin'...
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    Guy just got released from death row here. He was convicted in 1975 with eye witness testimony.
    My beliefs are a distillation of what I was taught as a child and what I observe as an adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polecat View Post
    Guy just got released from death row here. He was convicted in 1975 with eye witness testimony.
    Agreed. How many people have been wrongly imprisoned with "eye witness" testimony that forensic evidence later proved to be innocent? @Cigar?


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    There is a group of law students here that are working on over a hundred wrongful conviction cases. That is just here in Ohio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polecat View Post
    There is a group of law students here that are working on over a hundred wrongful conviction cases. That is just here in Ohio.
    Let's hope the citizens of Ohio favor science over eyewitness testimony. What are your thoughts on this @Cigar?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Agreed. How many people have been wrongly imprisoned with "eye witness" testimony that forensic evidence later proved to be innocent? @Cigar?
    All the ones who are in Jail for Perjury after lying under oath?

    So you tell me ... how many have testified and lied under oath ... sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    All the ones who are in Jail for Perjury after lying under oath?

    So you tell me ... how many have testified and lied under oath ... sport?
    People don't have to commit perjury to make a mistake.

    I give up. How many, sport?

    While you're thinking of a reply, consider this:

    http://www.innocenceproject.org/unde...tification.php
    Eyewitness misidentification is the single greatest cause of wrongful convictions nationwide, playing a role in 72% of convictions overturned through DNA testing.


    While eyewitness testimony can be persuasive evidence before a judge or jury, 30 years of strong social science research has proven that eyewitness identification is often unreliable. Research shows that the human mind is not like a tape recorder; we neither record events exactly as we see them, nor recall them like a tape that has been rewound. Instead, witness memory is like any other evidence at a crime scene; it must be preserved carefully and retrieved methodically, or it can be contaminated........


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