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Thread: Why is atheism so poorly represented in American politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    Right, but since Christianity has permeated our worldviews with these notions so strongly, they aren't ridiculous outside a religious context.
    They lose their foundation.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrassrootsConservative View Post
    Because I call out all your typos?

    Ha. Coward!!!!
    I like the way she calls me master ut I'm not into old ladies.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    So, to derail the argument, you have do make an even more ridiculous statement than you have already made.

    That sounds to me like the sort of thing bible-bangers are conditioned to do.
    Derail you said they are not represented. They are there, LaVey was the founder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    Derail you said they are not represented. They are there, LaVey was the founder.
    Do, LaVey (whoever he is) has upset you. So what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    They lose their foundation.
    How so? I think it depends on the personal philosophies of non religious persons, D. Equality may be rooted in religion, but it has so strongly changed our institutions that they seem blatantly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I like the way she calls me master ut I'm not into old ladies.
    And you know how New Zealanders are, they're not into anything but big fluffy sheep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    Not what I said. I have no problem conceding that our modern views about human equality are rooted in religion. Religion does not prey on the ignorant, instead it glorifies the beliefs of the faithful. It has been and continues to be a useful force in society.
    Does it indeed. What I see in the US, the Middle East, Pakistan, India, Egypt, Nigeria, Mali, the Balkans and gods only know where else is that religion subverts humanity and human values.

    It held societies together in brutal ways in the Dark and Middle Ages. But most enlightened countries (including NZ) have moved on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    Exactly. All religions do is take normal humans needs and desires captive.

    It is a convenient deceit that preys upon the ignorant.
    excuse me. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you got this bs in some kind of college or junior college setting. Is that correct? What a bunch of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathaariancode View Post
    How so? I think it depends on the personal philosophies of non religious persons, D. Equality may be rooted in religion, but it has so strongly changed our institutions that they seem blatantly obvious.
    Those institutions are historically Christian and survive on that ethos. "Progress" and "equality" are what I would call residual Christianity. We removed the logical foundation of our beliefs (theology) but they are only "blatantly obvious" because we continue to think like Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    excuse me. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you got this bs in some kind of college or junior college setting. Is that correct? What a bunch of crap.
    I am going to give you the vast benefit of the doubt that you have the germ of an idea lurking in what passes for your mind.

    What is it?

    If you don't have one, you are (as requested) excused.
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