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Thread: Why is atheism so poorly represented in American politics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    It is rather dashing. Thanks.
    Fanciful and Delusional perhaps, but Dashing is a stretch for this century. Were you frozen near your death shortly before the Russian Revolution ousted your elitist family?

    More importantly, why did someone defrost you at this late date of 2012?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Science taught us that there is no God? lol What bubble?
    The idea of some being watching and judging everything we as humans do is not backed by science in any way. This idea that humans are the center of the universe is not backed by science.
    I don't but go ahead and explain why it's not rational
    I have to explain why believing in irrational, illogical things is irrational? Really?
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    Then what's with the suggestion that religion is in people's dna?
    Because that is part of evolution. The evidence of rituals and religion are pegged to the rise of man from the apes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    The idea of some being watching and judging everything we as humans do is not backed by science in any way. This idea that humans are the center of the universe is not backed by science.
    How could science ever support or undermine such a belief? It is beyond the purview of science. As for humanity being the center I'm not sure what belief you're referring to.

    I have to explain why believing in irrational, illogical things is irrational? Really?
    Such reasoning is circular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyDog View Post
    Fanciful and Delusional perhaps, but Dashing is a stretch for this century. Were you frozen near your death shortly before the Russian Revolution ousted your elitist family?

    More importantly, why did someone defrost you at this late date of 2012?
    Just imagine my horror to find every idiot and his uncle possessing a political opinion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    Then what's with the suggestion that religion is in people's dna?

    Probably derives in evidence from the mass's constant striving for a divine hamburger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Atheists typically borrow their moral codes from one or more of the religious codes.

    Religion is in the genes of humans so to speak.
    Why this need to believe that rational human impulses of security, human interaction, basic survival, and the emotions of hope and spiritual need cannot occur without religion?

    All religion is is a metaphor and framework for what happens anyway. And it happens increasingly in more enlightened communities and countries without religion becoming involved at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzume View Post
    Gay marriage rights is not redistribution of wealth. Women being able to vote is not redistribution of wealth. Nondiscriminatory policies is not redistribution of wealth.
    Exactly. But policies that discriminate against women, gays and others is. It denies them opportunities that have economic consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    How could science ever support or undermine such a belief? It is beyond the purview of science. As for humanity being the center I'm not sure what belief you're referring to.
    Your belief in God puts humans at the center of EVERYTHING. To have a Biblical view of god, one has to believe that humans are the center of the universe, or at the very least, the center of God's universe, particularly if you think he cares how each and every one of us live our lives and cares what we think about.
    Such reasoning is circular.
    2+2 does not equal 3.
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    Exactly. But policies that discriminate against women, gays and others is. It denies them opportunities that have economic consequences.
    Isn't that kind-of a stretch? Denying someone an opportunity is not redistributing wealth.
    Sorry--but I do not accept the idea that being intolerant of intolerance is THE SAME THING as being intolerant of anything else.

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