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    Why is atheism so poorly represented in American politics?

    The US is the most religious nation on earth. It apparently missed the Rennaisance.

    US politics are driven by religious conservatives to the exclusion of those who don't believe in flying teapots.

    This is unfair.

    New Zealand excludes religion from politics. No politician here with half a brain would claim divine inspiration. Religion is just a non-issue.

    But in the US, politicians obssess about it. Even poor Obama, who is a closet atheist, has to pretend he attends some church or other - where he no doubt offers prayers that Americans will one day see sense.

    Why does such irrationality infest American politics? Or is it just a convenient conceit?
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    We don't have a state sponsored religion. Our Constitution prohibits it.
    But neither do we ban religion and treat it as if it were evil, because our values came from Christian tradition.

    Our politicians don't obsess over it either. You are mistaken about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    We don't have a state sponsored religion. Our Constitution prohibits it.
    But neither do we ban religion and treat it as if it were evil, because our values came from Christian tradition.

    Our politicians don't obsess over it either. You are mistaken about that.

    IF anyone obsesses over religion, it's the atheists who do.

    It is the atheists we see throwing a fit, because a church provided a meal to a high school football team.

    It is after all the atheists we see screaming bloody murder over a cross nobody really knew was there, which the builders had erected and dedicated to fallen veterans out in the middle of the desert.

    It is the atheists we see demanding that any reference to God be removed from schools.

    It is the atheists we see rather than respecting the beliefs and choice of others, as they demand for themselves, hypocritically always attacking and attempting to insult those with religious belief, as the OP's own posts demonstrates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    The US is the most religious nation on earth. It apparently missed the Rennaisance.

    US politics are driven by religious conservatives to the exclusion of those who don't believe in flying teapots.

    This is unfair.

    New Zealand excludes religion from politics. No politician here with half a brain would claim divine inspiration. Religion is just a non-issue.

    But in the US, politicians obssess about it. Even poor Obama, who is a closet atheist, has to pretend he attends some church or other - where he no doubt offers prayers that Americans will one day see sense.

    Why does such irrationality infest American politics? Or is it just a convenient conceit?
    When the atheist community can afford to everyone else the rights they demand for themselves, IE: the right to believe what one wish's to believe, instead of behaving as the hypocrites most of them are demanding that their non belief be imposed upon everyone else, then I am sure we as a nation will welcome their contribution to political leadership in our nation. Until then however, so long as they remain the hypocrites they are today, we are far better off without their participation.

    As is the case, anytime we have an overtly, vocal, screaming bloody murder, minority group, demanding that it be afforded the leadership of our Republic.

    Oh p.s. and if atheists don't like that too damn bad. They are always free to move to another nation state where they are in the majority.
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    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religiouspeople. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. ~Still waiting to see one of you liberals demonstrate that "separation of church and state" is a concept that is actually enumerated in our Constitution.

    And not just a liberal activist, legislate from the bench, fabrication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdams View Post
    IF anyone obsesses over religion, it's the atheists who do.

    It is the atheists we see throwing a fit, because a church provided a meal to a high school football team.

    It is after all the atheists we see screaming bloody murder over a cross nobody really knew was there, which the builders had erected and dedicated to fallen veterans out in the middle of the desert.

    It is the atheists we see demanding that any reference to God be removed from schools.

    It is the atheists we see rather than respecting the beliefs and choice of others, as they demand for themselves, hypocritically always attacking and attempting to insult those with religious belief, as the OP's own posts demonstrates.



    When the atheist community can afford to everyone else the rights they demand for themselves, IE: the right to believe what one wish's to believe, instead of behaving as the hypocrites most of them are demanding that their non belief be imposed upon everyone else, then I am sure we as a nation will welcome their contribution to political leadership in our nation. Until then however, so long as they remain the hypocrites they are today, we are far better off without their participation.

    As is the case, anytime we have an overtly, vocal, screaming bloody murder, minority group, demanding that it be afforded the leadership of our Republic.

    Oh p.s. and if atheists don't like that too damn bad. They are always free to move to another nation state where they are in the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
    amen ... you tell em.
    I be told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdams View Post
    IF anyone obsesses over religion, it's the atheists who do.

    It is the atheists we see throwing a fit, because a church provided a meal to a high school football team.

    It is after all the atheists we see screaming bloody murder over a cross nobody really knew was there, which the builders had erected and dedicated to fallen veterans out in the middle of the desert.

    It is the atheists we see demanding that any reference to God be removed from schools.

    It is the atheists we see rather than respecting the beliefs and choice of others, as they demand for themselves, hypocritically always attacking and attempting to insult those with religious belief, as the OP's own posts demonstrates.
    This argument is the logical equivalent of going up to someone, and punching them in the face repeatedly. And then when they say, "why are you punching me in the face," you retort with: "well you are the one talking about it! so who's really obsessed with face punching? not me!"

    *punch*

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    Ths US is not even close to being the Most Religious Nation on the Earth. Moreover US Politics are not driven by religious conservatives. Not even the Expressionist painter during the Rennaisance would use such a broad paint-brush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Ths US is not even close to being the Most Religious Nation on the Earth. Moreover US Politics are not driven by religious conservatives. Not even the Expressionist painter during the Rennaisance would use such a broad paint-brush.
    83% of you or thereabouts profess religious beliefs. In NZ only about half do and they do it because they were christened against their will, at least without it, into some church or other and tick the religion box out of habit.

    Only 14% of Kiwis actually attend any churches and any politician that mentions God, Zeus, Jupiter or Ra is automatically excommunicated..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awryly View Post
    83% of you or thereabouts profess religious beliefs. In NZ only about half do and they do it because they were christened against their will, at least without it, into some church or other and tick the religion box out of habit.

    Only 14% of Kiwis actually attend any churches and any politician that mentions God, Zeus, Jupiter or Ra is automatically excommunicated..

    Still doesnt make the US most religious Nation on the Earth. Have you looked up some of the Latin Countries? Muslim Countries? Perhaps you will find that you would be closer to the mark. Oh, and with their political elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Still doesnt make the US most religious Nation on the Earth. Have you looked up some of the Latin Countries? Muslim Countries? Perhaps you will find that you would be closer to the mark. Oh, and with their political elections.
    Grant you the Islam bit. But you take the wafer amongst so-called Christian countries.

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