Are giant cities simply a wrong turn in social evolition

[Polecat]

I think the idea of sprawl has shown its pitfalls already. The numerous systems that are involved in supporting giant urban centers are far more than modern convenience. They are expensive ,vulnerable life support networks that can trigger utter chaos if there is even a slight glitch. In times of stability they grow but when the string breaks and pandemonium is everywhere cities are evacuated.

[decedent]

Huge cities always have homeless people. Huge cities are always liberal. Coincidence?

[exotix]

I think the idea of sprawl has shown its pitfalls already. The numerous systems that are involved in supporting giant urban centers are far more than modern convenience. They are expensive ,vulnerable life support networks that can trigger utter chaos if there is even a slight glitch. In times of stability they grow but when the string breaks and pandemonium is everywhere cities are evacuated.

Excellent point ... in fact, some of the GOP hysterics are actually warning all of America to be prepared for the chaos that will come to you as soon as the Ferguson Grand Jury verdict comes in.

[Peter1469]

You mean you gave your "thoughts."

I gave my thoughts ... even if a *utopic transformation* was possible ... congressional conservatism would simply go bat $#@! nuts and bring nothing to the table let alone a vote ... this happened immediately with TARP and the Re-Investment Act ....

Now, notice what's happening in Detroit ... how much Stimulus did Tea Party Gov. Snyder get, where did it go, and why is he now selling Detroit to the Chinese Capitalist- Communists ?


http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...ublic-of-China

[Max Rockatansky]

Excellent point ... in fact, some of the GOP hysterics are actually warning all of America to be prepared for the chaos that will come to you as soon as the Ferguson Grand Jury verdict comes in.

Speaking of someone who can't stay on topic. Sheeesh!

You actually believe this kind of sitting around crying like a wuss blaming Repubs addresses the topic ?

[Peter1469]

The people who settle Mars will be pioneers. But I suspect they will establish a city and not a rural type of settlement.

Large cities are both the present and, as history shows, the past. However, not all humans are cut out to live in a beehive. Human diversity is pretty wide, very adaptable.

Look at Europe compared to the US. Basically, most of the city-types stayed behind in the Old Country, and most of the adventuring, wide-open spaces types headed West. That's an over-exaggeration, but it has a lot of truth in it.

Look at the types of people volunteering for the Mars One project. Those addicted to beehives, Broadway shows and Deli's aren't the ones volunteering for a one-way trip to Mars. It takes an adventurous soul to do that.

Look at who joins the military and who doesn't. While people from all walks of life can be found in the military, the majority

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...s-and-officers

[Polecat]

The people who settle Mars will be pioneers. But I suspect they will establish a city and not a rural type of settlement.

That is more of an outpost. Good concept for a city but very limited in size and population. Even a city as small as the one I live in depends heavily on the arrival of hundreds of trucks a day to keep provisioned. Just watched a show on History that mentioned off shore floating cities for the rich. I would like to see the whole design on these islands and what sort of outside dependence they rely on.

[Peter1469]

That is more of an outpost. Good concept for a city but very limited in size and population. Even a city as small as the one I live in depends heavily on the arrival of hundreds of trucks a day to keep provisioned. Just watched a show on History that mentioned off shore floating cities for the rich. I would like to see the whole design on these islands and what sort of outside dependence they rely on.

Yes, it will take generations.

[Max Rockatansky]

That is more of an outpost. Good concept for a city but very limited in size and population. Even a city as small as the one I live in depends heavily on the arrival of hundreds of trucks a day to keep provisioned. Just watched a show on History that mentioned off shore floating cities for the rich. I would like to see the whole design on these islands and what sort of outside dependence they rely on.

They'd feast on Soylent Green.....probably developed by and wholly owned by Monsanto.

[Green Arrow]

I think large cities are the future. There is no way around it. But we can make them sustainable.

The only way I could see them being sustainable is if you decentralized them into individual neighborhoods.