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    Exclamation Emirates next to join Arab Spring

    Emirates Step Up Efforts to Counter Dissent

    By ANGELA SHAH

    May 30, 2012

    All but two are members of Al Islah Reform and Social Guidance Association, which holds beliefs similar to those of the Muslim Brotherhood, the mainstream Islamic organization.

    The men have called for a more democratic political system in the country, a group of seven principalities ruled by hereditary emirs.



    Christopher Davidson, a lecturer at Durham University in Britain who is an expert on Gulf issues, said the Emirates were following the example of Bahrain, which has cracked down harshly on dissidents.

    Leaders of the Emirates are “emboldened” by the Bahrain government’s actions against protesters “and the lack of any significant condemnation of the Bahrain regime by the international community,” he said.

    “The U.A.E. authorities want to govern over a nonpolitical country and a depoliticized population,” he said. “They want to be guardians of an economy that makes money for everyone.”



    One stick that the U.A.E. government is using against dissidents is the threat of taking away their citizenship. In December, a group of seven Emiratis, all of whom are members of Al Islah, were stripped of their citizenship. They were arrested in March when they refused to seek out alternative nationalities, their families say. A court ruling on the authorities’ actions is imminent.


    “This is aggressive in nature and so vicious in a way that has never been done before,” said Ahmed Mansoor, a human rights activist and blogger. He was among the first group of Emiratis arrested and put on trial last year for calling for democratic reforms.


    In November, Mr. Mansoor and four others were convicted of threatening state security and insulting the Emirates’ leaders and sentenced to three years in prison. But days after the verdict, the men were granted a pardon.


    Many Emiratis say that their leaders’ governance has provided them a prosperous and easy life and that there is no need for political change. For many, public criticism of how the Emirates are governed or their rulers is unacceptable.


    The Emirates’ Western-oriented business climate and position as a safe haven have lifted the local economy. Leaders want to preserve that status, even if it means a crackdown.
    The authorities are monitoring the internet and social media closely. On May 21, the Emirates News Agency reported that four people were arrested by Abu Dhabi on charges of “tribal instigation and libel” through Internet postings.


    “Some people do not understand the grave consequences of their conduct on social networking sites or over the Internet in general,” the agency reported, citing an unidentified official from the Abu Dhabi attorney general's office.


    In the first three months of this year, the Dubai police said they had shut down 15 Facebook or Twitter accounts that they considered defamatory, following complaints that led to electronic patrols of social media and other online activity.


    The most recent detention came last week when the authorities rearrested Ahmed Abdul Khaleq, an activist and blogger who was one of the U.A.E. 5, first detained in April 2011 along with Mr. Mansoor and the others. They are not members of Al Islah, but they, too, called for more direct democracy.


    Mr. Khaleq, who is his family’s sole source of support, was born in the Emirates, but he is a bidoon, or stateless Arab. His family said he was summoned May 22 to the immigration department in Ajman, where he lives. The day before, the family were told they would be issued Comoros Islands passports under a 2009 economic agreement between the Emirates and that nation, which is near Madagascar, Mr. Mansoor said.
    Reporters Without Borders announced last week that Mr. Khaleq and his family were told by the authorities that accepting Comoros citizenship under that agreement would be a first step toward becoming naturalized Emirati citizens. Instead, the group said, Mr. Khaleq is being threatened with deportation.
    Even prominent people have fallen into the net. In addition to the seven members of Al Islah who were detained in March, the authorities have targeted the group’s chairman, Sultan bin Kayed al-Qasimi, who is the cousin of the ruler of Ras al Khaymah, a northern emirate. Mr. Qasimi is apparently being held in the ruler’s palace, according to rights groups.
    In the meantime, Mr. Mansoor said, the government’s actions are not silencing its opponents. Instead, they are bringing liberals and the more conservative members of Al Islah closer together. “Absolutely to the contrary, people are now becoming more aggressive, even using their real names,” he said.
    “If they arrest me, they arrest me,” he added. “The only thing I can be sure of is that I will not back off from activism and defending our rights and freedom.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/wo...sent.html?_r=1

    You can't stop the wave of protests for the right to choose who rules you.
    Emirates need to accept that the world has changed and it no longer wants dictators and royal families stealing the nations wealth for thier own family and tribal alliances.
    This show that the Bahrain is purely about the rights of it's citizens to self determination and not the usual rubbish about being Iran led or Shia led. Emirates is not Shia majority.

    We need to face the facts and agree that the people of this world need equal rights. NO MORE KINGS! NO MORE DICTATORS!
    Western Governments need to stop supporting these brutal and thieving dictatorships who loot the people because that endorsement just emboldens them.

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    So then why didnt the Emirates Speak out to Obama or the UN when the Saud over ran the border and began killing the unarmed Bahrainian Citizens? More precise would be the unarmed Shia Bahrainian Citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So then why didnt the Emirates Speak out to Obama or the UN when the Saud over ran the border and began killing the unarmed Bahrainian Citizens? More precise would be the unarmed Shia Bahrainian Citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/wo...sent.html?_r=1

    You can't stop the wave of protests for the right to choose who rules you.
    Emirates need to accept that the world has changed and it no longer wants dictators and royal families stealing the nations wealth for thier own family and tribal alliances.
    This show that the Bahrain is purely about the rights of it's citizens to self determination and not the usual rubbish about being Iran led or Shia led. Emirates is not Shia majority.

    We need to face the facts and agree that the people of this world need equal rights. NO MORE KINGS! NO MORE DICTATORS!
    Western Governments need to stop supporting these brutal and thieving dictatorships who loot the people because that endorsement just emboldens them.


    I totally and 100 percent agree with the bolded portion of your post..
    The eastern world, it is exploding, violence flaring bullets loading. you are old enough to kill , but not for voting, this whole crazy world is just to frustrating, and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, you don't believe we are on the EVE of DESTRUCTION.


    Never approach a bull from the front, A horse from behind, or a fool from any direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
    [/B]I totally and 100 percent agree with the bolded portion of your post..
    and any sane moral thinking person would

    problem is we are not dealing with same moral thinking people just insane madmen who care only about their own greed and power and families ruling over people with allies supporting these thieving dictatorships

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post
    and any sane moral thinking person would

    problem is we are not dealing with same moral thinking people just insane madmen who care only about their own greed and power and families ruling over people with allies supporting these thieving dictatorships
    I would love to see the USA.. just stop funding any foriegn government period, it is not our fight nor our duty to interfere in the way another country operates.. if the people of that country want civil liberties and freedom they are going to have to rise up and fight for it..we have wasted trillions of dollars over the last 60 years involving ourselves ( and by this I mean our government) on countries that niether respect nor even like the USA,, and that is the bottom line,, trade yes , political and military involvement ? not no way no how.
    The eastern world, it is exploding, violence flaring bullets loading. you are old enough to kill , but not for voting, this whole crazy world is just to frustrating, and you tell me over and over and over again my friend, you don't believe we are on the EVE of DESTRUCTION.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
    I would love to see the USA.. just stop funding any foriegn government period, it is not our fight nor our duty to interfere in the way another country operates.. if the people of that country want civil liberties and freedom they are going to have to rise up and fight for it..we have wasted trillions of dollars over the last 60 years involving ourselves ( and by this I mean our government) on countries that niether respect nor even like the USA,, and that is the bottom line,, trade yes , political and military involvement ? not no way no how.
    I agree

    bribery is immoral and a very bad thing

    problem is you need to sell weapons to keep you in jobs and in houses and not out on the streets and no point in making weapons if no one buys them so for you to sell them you need to start and invent wars

    it's a big problem getting past that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan View Post

    You do know that many here in the US have pointed out the hypocrisy with the Saudi.....were you questioning as to why didnt the Emirates Speak out? Are all of the other Sunni Arabs afriad of the Saudi that they can't stand up and publicly condemn them. Where are the complaints to the UN over the Saudi?

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    Former Bush National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley on the Arab Spring...

    Former Bush National Security Adviser: ‘The Arab Spring Turned Out to Be Less Spring’ – Should Be Called ‘Arab Awakening’
    November 13, 2012 – Former national security adviser Stephen Hadley, speaking at the annual conference of the World Affairs Councils of America on Friday, said that “the Arab Spring turned out to be less spring” and the better term to describe it is “the Arab Awakening.”
    “The Arab Spring turned out to be less spring. Probably the better term is the Arab Awakening, and we’re going to go through springs and winters and summers and falls, and it’s going to vary country to country, and it’s going to take a long time, but look, it was inevitable, unavoidable, and actually a good thing that the people of the Arab world should start taking some responsibility for their future,” said Hadley, who succeeded Condoleezza Rice as national security adviser to President George W. Bush.

    The host of the conference asked Hadley for what he sees as the next steps with regard to Iran. “How do we see that unfolding in the time ahead, and then what’s the way forward with Syria?”

    Hadley said “Arab Awakening” is a better term to use to describe the “Arab Spring,” because the Middle East will go through springs, winters, summers and falls and will vary from country to country. “It’s going to take a long time, but look, it was inevitable, unavoidable, and actually a good thing that the people of the Arab world should start taking some responsibility for their future,” Hadley said.

    “And there’s just no going back, and it is very much in our interest how these awakenings come out and that they result in societies that are democratic, that are producing a better life for their people, and we should do everything we can in a smart way, recognizing we’re not so popular in the Middle East right now to try to help get that outcome,” he added.

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