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    Quote Originally Posted by protectionist View Post
    What numbers ? I haven't noted any numbers. You mean how any foreigners are working in the US ?
    Do you skip the links provided above? They turn out blue on my monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    of course, employers using illegal workers are going to report those numbers to the Dept of Labor. That's where you get such reliable facts to back up your statements. uh huh....
    I imagine he is referring to the displaced American workers that exit the labor force.
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    Here are the numbers.

    Look at the unemployment rate. U-3 is what is typically used by politicians and the "media." 5.4%/Dec 2014. However the U-6 rate was 11.1% as of December 2014. Then look at the labor force participation rate. 62.7% as of September 2014, a historic low.




    To paint these numbers as good is dishonest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Unemployment is down and im not putting up links either, google, bing, duckduckgo or yahoo will work well for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    of course, employers using illegal workers are going to report those numbers to the Dept of Labor. That's where you get such reliable facts to back up your statements. uh huh....
    1. So you know exactly how unemployment figures are tallied up ?

    2. Millions of illegal aliens work with false documentation, and appear to be legal workers. (uh huh)

    3. There are millions of foreigners working in the US legally, also, on work visas. And these corrupt the unemployment figures as well.

    4. If a company reports it has 15,000 workers, you think it's going to report that some of them are illegal ?
    It may not know if many are illegal (and thus would not be in violation of IRCA), and even if it did, all it has to do is report a number, not who they are. That only happens if ICE comes around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Unemployment is down and im not putting up links either, google, bing, duckduckgo or yahoo will work well for you
    It is down quite a bit - for Mexicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I imagine he is referring to the displaced American workers that exit the labor force.
    No. I'm referring to FOREIGN workers, legal and illegal both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Here are the numbers.

    Look at the unemployment rate. U-3 is what is typically used by politicians and the "media." 5.4%/Dec 2014. However the U-6 rate was 11.1% as of December 2014. Then look at the labor force participation rate. 62.7% as of September 2014, a historic low.

    To paint these numbers as good is dishonest.
    As I've said in the OP and posts, I don't accept any of these numbers as long as the US labor market is flooded with foreigners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protectionist View Post
    As I've said in the OP and posts, I don't accept any of these numbers as long as the US labor market is flooded with foreigners.
    That is nice of you.

    Foreigners have been the main force of United States for many years. Many important scientific discoveries in USA have been done with foreign team leads.

    Like I always say, many conservative prove my thesis that they are reactionary and pretty close to fascism (for not saying that they are directly fascists).
    WORK AND FIGHT FOR THE REVOLUTION AND AGAINST THE INJUSTICE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Look at the unemployment rate. U-3 is what is typically used by politicians and the media. 5.4%/Dec 2014. However the U-6 rate was (11.1% as of December 2014. Then look at the labor force participation rate. 62.7% as of September 2014, a historic low.

    To paint these numbers as good is dishonest.
    When politicians brag, they simply pull up one of the hundred charts or tables to show what they want to show.

    When they won't admit the labor participation rate, they tell us the unemployment rate. That way they can ignore the actual out of worker people.

    Even the Debt clock has a heck of a lot of data and trying to use all of it is harder than it looks. For instance compare the rate today vs the 2000 rates of data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    That is nice of you.

    Foreigners have been the main force of United States for many years. Many important scientific discoveries in USA have been done with foreign team leads.

    Like I always say, many conservative prove my thesis that they are reactionary and pretty close to fascism (for not saying that they are directly fascists).
    Stop pretending. You're a Democrat and you want them for VOTES. Everybody knows it.

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