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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Sounds good to me. Hooey can be fun.
    You are my favorite stick in the mud. I don't comprehend how she tolerates it.

    We will find something to convince you of the paranormal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    So the lepers Jesus cured spontaneously had their skin meld back together because of placebo? Padre Pia's stigmata that bled a blood type different than that of his own body was also placebo?
    Let's take him to Gettysburg. We will get EMPs there plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.
    There is magic.
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    And if we should die tonight
    Then we should all die together
    Raise a glass of wine for the last time
    Calling out father, prepare as we will
    Watch the flames burn auburn on the mountain side
    Desolation comes upon the sky..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    There is no such thing as magic. It's just petty manipulation of the placebo effect.
    I could show you the hard science behind a love spell, if you like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    So the lepers Jesus cured spontaneously had their skin meld back together because of placebo? Padre Pia's stigmata that bled a blood type different than that of his own body was also placebo?
    Assuming those things actually happened, they are certainly explainable by placebo or just plain old fraud. And his name was padre Pio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    There is magic.
    Define magic.
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    Brett's love spell dynamics.

    Now, please trust me, do this with your wife or girlfriend, okay? you do not want to fall in love with some stranger. believe me, your placebo as you put it might latch onto them, as you might have a weak will.

    This typical love spell comes from a source i cannot remember, and, it is written down and is popular, so i think it might work. if you want to make someone fall in love with you, all you need is a candle, matches, something nice smelling and your voice. basic yes? all you need to do in the spell is light the candle with one or two strikes of the match, if it breaks it is bad luck, and if it scratches twice it is bad - it is incredibly more powerful to scratch on purpose then light it, but i don't take chances myself. use two matches to symbolize your union with the person, even your child would do nicely. then, you sprinkle the herbs onto the flame, and it produces a nice smell for the faeries to relate to her - you heard of one world conscious and social mathematics? then you sing to him or her.

    Now, the real thing is the sining. have you heard of when people serenade each other, they sing! this is typical in every culture around camp fires too. if you sing to someone, they think of you, and that is why singers are more popular than actors, because the songs have a good effect on your mind. so you don't really need the spell, you just got to sing to the ones you love, and they will slowly begin to think of you when they are 'free.' the effects can be summarized as;

    Quote Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love
    Biological models of love tend to see it as a mammalian drive, similar to hunger or thirst.[17] Psychology sees love as more of a social and cultural phenomenon. Certainly love is influenced by hormones (such as oxytocin), neurotrophins (such as NGF), and pheromones, and how people think and behave in love is influenced by their conceptions of love. The conventional view in biology is that there are two major drives in love: sexual attraction and attachment. Attachment between adults is presumed to work on the same principles that lead an infant to become attached to its mother. The traditional psychological view sees love as being a combination of companionate love and passionate love. Passionate love is intense longing, and is often accompanied by physiological arousal (shortness of breath, rapid heart rate); companionate love is affection and a feeling of intimacy not accompanied by physiological arousal.
    So, my theory is backed by science, so far. but, how does music fit in?

    https://blog.bufferapp.com/music-and-the-brain

    brain-and-music.jpg

    So, as you can see, the hard science backs my claims that singing to someone will make them slowly love you, depending on how much you sing to them, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Assuming those things actually happened, they are certainly explainable by placebo or just plain old fraud. And his name was padre Pio.
    Thank you for correcting my typo. So you believe that Jesus was a fraud then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett Nortje View Post
    I could show you the hard science behind a love spell, if you like?
    Manipulation of someone's mind and body through suggestion and the like is not magic, it's the placebo effect and is easily explained by science. No need to conjure up supernatural or paranormal entities when biochemistry already has the answers.
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