ISIS burns alive 45 Iraqis

[JDubya]

Please point out to me where in that speech that Hillary Clinton (or any other Democrat), in voting to give Bush THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE MILITARY FORCE, based on intelligence reports MANIPULATED by Dick Cheney, expressly indicated they wanted Bush to launch a full on ground invasion of Iraq.

Because afaik, giving Congressional authorization to use "military force" does not = launching a ground invasion per se.

Bush could have just as easily continued patrolling the skies over Iraq & kept a close eye on Saddam's activities for awhile longer in order to be 100% certain he really was an imminent threat, then launched cruise missiles from the Gulf if necessary prior to opting for the last resort. But Bush went for the whole bag of marbles right off the bat. He didn't even bother attempting to build an international coalition.

Why? Because he had already decided to launch an invasion long before the Congressional vote anyway. Because like all conservatives, he wanted to look like a big, tough macho man. Increase his approval ratings. Be a "war president". Even at the cost of untold thousands of lives.

Implicit in any authorization for the use of the US military, is the assumption that said force is going to be used rationally, responsibly & intelligently.

Three words that never applied to that particular President or anything he ever did.

[Captain Obvious]

Please point out to me where in that speech that Hillary Clinton (or any other Democrat), in voting to give Bush THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE MILITARY FORCE, based on intelligence reports MANIPULATED by Dick Cheney, expressly indicated they wanted Bush to launch a full on ground invasion of Iraq.

Because afaik, giving Congressional authorization to use "military force" does not = launching a ground invasion per se.

Bush could have just as easily continued patrolling the skies over Iraq & kept a close eye on Saddam's activities for awhile longer in order to be 100% certain he really was an imminent threat, then launched cruise missiles from the Gulf if necessary prior to opting for the last resort. But Bush went for the whole bag of marbles right off the bat. He didn't even bother attempting to build an international coalition.

Why? Because he had already decided to launch an invasion long before the Congressional vote anyway. Because like all conservatives, he wanted to look like a big, tough macho man. Increase his approval ratings. Be a "war president". Even at the cost of untold thousands of lives.

Implicit in any authorization for the use of the US military, is the assumption that said force is going to be used rationally, responsibly & intelligently.

Three words that never applied to that particular President or anything he ever did.

[Private Pickle]

That's why I'm Conservative. Looking like a big tough macho man is a priority to me. I even carry around a beatbox on my shoulder that loops "Macho, Macho, Man!".

[Peter1469]

Brazil. They'll do something.

Good, you must know what vital national security interest Brazil has in the ME. Teach us.

[Ransom]

Finland. Don't f with the Fins. They'll handle this.

[Ransom]

Belgium. They brought Food Lion didn't they? Bought up Anheuser Busch, yes? Do they not now own Budweiser?

[Peter1469]

Ransom, you don't have to have a mental break down. You can study up on what the term vital national security interest is, and then apply it to the real world.

[Ransom]

Buck up Pete, it's a Christian holiday weekend?

[domer76]

Well, no one wants to say it but I will. Obama pulled our troops out of Iraq before the situation was stable. Now the Iraqis are paying the consequences.

He will be on the golf course not worrying about it.

You were for it before you were against it. When the troops were first pulled, the right said it wasn't Obama, but that it was according to Bush's timeline. Now, you've dropped the entire "Bush's timeline" thing. Petty hack that you are.

Gotta clue for you, pal. Things were the most stable when Saddam had his thumb on everyone. But Dubya had to $#@! that up major league. And, at the expense of thousands of our own.

You don't give a flying $#@! about the Iraqis. You just want to bash Obama. Petty hack that you are.

[Ransom]

Ransom, you don't have to have a mental break down. You can study up on what the term vital national security interest is, and then apply it to the real world.

Should I study up on eggshell walking, chaos in the ME makes the West safer, and Isolationism too?