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    I think both parties are so busy catering to the extremes of both...they are ignoring the younger & moderate voters.... the ones who would participate if they felt the party really reflected their concerns... I don't think the solution is either party. When enough voters get disgusted enough, a viable third (or more) party will emerge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonToBe2LT View Post
    They can't though. They are stuck.

    There's no other money in a 3rd party. They have to associate with the religious right.
    They can, it just takes courage and good sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    They can, it just takes courage and good sense.
    Maybe...but MOST of all, it takes money. No one becomes President without money and a nice superpac

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonToBe2LT View Post
    Maybe...but MOST of all, it takes money. No one becomes President without money and a nice superpac
    which tells me that we need to get rid of those superpacs....all of them. Instead, what did Congress do in December? Increase the individual donations by 100%.

    We have the best government that money can buy...don't you wish YOU had enough money to buy some?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    I think both parties are so busy catering to the extremes of both...they are ignoring the younger & moderate voters.... the ones who would participate if they felt the party really reflected their concerns... I don't think the solution is either party. When enough voters get disgusted enough, a viable third (or more) party will emerge.
    Yes, Ross Perot shall rise again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    which tells me that we need to get rid of those superpacs....all of them. Instead, what did Congress do in December? Increase the individual donations by 100%.

    We have the best government that money can buy...don't you wish YOU had enough money to buy some?
    Lol well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Yes, Ross Perot shall rise again.
    Ross Perot & Ralph Nader both proved that a third party candidate can get votes. We have had several more years of disgusted, vote for the least evil elections for the next candidate to build on.....who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonToBe2LT View Post
    Maybe...but MOST of all, it takes money. No one becomes President without money and a nice superpac
    There's a solution to that problem that nobody seems to want to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    There's a solution to that problem that nobody seems to want to follow.
    Because everyone loves money :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    Ross Perot & Ralph Nader both proved that a third party candidate can get votes. We have had several more years of disgusted, vote for the least evil elections for the next candidate to build on.....who knows?
    We are on the same page. I used Perot because he got a lot of votes. What did he spend to lose?

    I must check up trying to find his figures.

    I blame the pubic.

    You say, best government money can buy.

    When you have long lines at the DMV, think we can change that? (DMV = department of motor vehicles)

    I have spent too much of my life wondering why this country remains in such a mess. I hoped Reagan was able to fix that.

    I really recently concluded that we are in this mess due to the public.

    I blame us all.

    Why? Well, because we want all the free stuff we can get. We want to pay zero taxes. Yes, the 47 percent pay a bit of tax, but look what for? Social Security will come back to them with enormous profit. So will Medicare. A nut would not want that free stuff. Free in that they pay little to get a lot from both.

    When we are willing to be dishonest, we get dishonest politicians.

    I don't believe in the third parties any more or less than the main two parties.

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