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    The Battle for Mosul

    The Battle for Mosul

    For purposes of this thread I don't want to discuss whether this battle will happen on schedule (it won't). I want to discuss "what's next?" It is a perfect analogy to the US invasion turned occupation. As bad as war can be, it is relatively easy if you are prepared. What comes after, governance, is hard. Especially in a climate such as Mosul: majority Sunni who distrust the Shia majority in Iraq.

    Serious soul-searching needs to precede the looming battle for Mosul because it is an environment like no other in Iraq. Mosul is distant from Baghdad — both physically and culturally. It is a 200-mile drive from the capital and 100 miles north of the nearest Iraqi military bases at Baiji, the Iraqi Army’s tentative foothold in the north. Mosul is Iraq’s second-largest city, boasting a population of just over 1 million people, with half the surface area of Baghdad but more than twice that of Basra, the third of Arab Iraq’s traditional regional centers.


    Mosul also includes a mosaic of religions and ethnicities. Its population was as much as 65 percent Sunni Arab prior to the June 2014 takeover by the Islamic State, according to election results, and is probably even more strongly Sunni now after an exodus of non-Sunni minorities in the early days of the Islamic State’s control. Kurds, Turkmen, Assyrians, and a host of other minority ethnic and religious groups have long called Mosul home, but probably compose well under a quarter of Mosul’s population today.


    Iraqi forces will also be attacking a city where most of the civilian population remains in place. Unlike the Islamic State-held cities of Fallujah and Tikrit, the Islamic State has actively worked to ensure that most Mosul residents remain trapped within the city. The jihadi group has enforced a “guarantee system” requiring those leaving the city to designate three hostages who will be punished if they fail to return.
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    By reading just what you've posted, it sounds like Mosul has a serious problem with IS. No doubt when the shooting starts, IS will naturally turn on the citizens as well as the attackers.
    Only in America.... could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.

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    Pete, unless there is some way of getting the various minorities to trust each other this will be another failure.

    And since nobody has managed to do that yet..........��
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Right View Post
    By reading just what you've posted, it sounds like Mosul has a serious problem with IS. No doubt when the shooting starts, IS will naturally turn on the citizens as well as the attackers.
    The locals do have a problem with ISIL. Gays are being tossed off high towers. Educated females are being executed for being educated. The Christian community is pretty much gone- one of the oldest in the world.
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    It's a least not quite as complicated as if it was occupied by US forces , they could plausibly give it autonomy and/or at least a relatively popular local governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingWave View Post
    It's a least not quite as complicated as if it was occupied by US forces , they could plausibly give it autonomy and/or at least a relatively popular local governor.
    Pretty sure the U.S. forces wouldn't be killing educated females or gays....
    Only in America.... could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.

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    Looks like the battle is likely to be called off for now......

    The news is the latest indication that not all is well with the American effort against the terror group. On Friday, U.S. defense officials told The Daily Beast that a planned offensive against the ISIS stronghold of Mosul had been indefinitely postponed. Over the weekend, an American-backed rebel group in Syria announced that it was dissolving, and joining an Islamist faction.
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    Why Didn't His Army Fight in Vietnam?

    Quote Originally Posted by RollingWave View Post
    It's a least not quite as complicated as if it was occupied by US forces , they could plausibly give it autonomy and/or at least a relatively popular local governor.
    Unleash Chiang Kai-Shek on them! That will finally pay us back for some of the money we've spent defending Formosa.
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    I just used Google Maps for Mosul. Very good looking city.

    Now i have to find out why it is there, so large. It has a beltway around it.

    I was not expecting to see high rise buildings. There is a sky scraper that is awesome. Looks like it is coated in aluminum and has two spires. Not sure what it is.

    The title of the building is

    Sherzad Hakkairi

    That is sure a fancy building.

    It is in English Village.
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    I thought Iraq was full of mud villages. Who knew!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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