GOP letter to Iran - Combined Thread

[Common Sense]

Emails from the wrong account? Huge deal.

Circumventing and trying to sabotage nuclear proliferation agreement years in the making? No big deal.

[Howey]

As I stated elsewhere, lock them up. Put them before the firing squad. While America's teabaggers are making a mountain out of a molehill over Hillary's emails, I present you the real scandal.

“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

More..

The Logan Act was named for Dr. George Logan, a Pennsylvania state legislator (and later US Senator) who engaged in semi-negotiations with France in 1798 during the Quasi-War.

In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp. (1936), Justice Sutherland wrote in the majority opinion:

[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate; but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation the Senate cannot intrude, and Congress itself is powerless to invade it.

Sutherland also notes in his opinion the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations report to the Senate of February 15, 1816:

The President is the constitutional representative of the United States with regard to foreign nations. He manages our concerns with foreign nations, and must necessarily be most competent to determine when, how, and upon what subjects negotiation may be urged with the greatest prospect of success. For his conduct, he is responsible to the Constitution.

[Captain Obvious]

This needs another thread?

[Common Sense]

No...we need more email threads!

[Howey]

This needs another thread?

This isn't about the emails. This is about 47 criminals.

[Peter1469]

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[exotix]

Today


We The People To File Charges Against 47 U.S. Senators for Treason

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03...ition-treason/

Yesterday forty-seven United States Senators committed treason when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.

The debate over a possible nuclear deal with Iran has reached a new level in Washington, after a group of Republican senators signed an open letter to Tehran warning that any potential deal with President Obama could be scrapped.

For the first time in American diplomatic history, one political party is devising its own foreign policy with its own entreaties to foreign governments.

Not content with having Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu address Congress and the American people and tell them the President’s approach to Iran is wrong, Republican senators yesterday sent an “open letter” to Iran’s leaders advising them that President Obama doesn’t have the constitutional authority to reach a meaningful understanding with them.

The letter warned Tehran that any nuclear deal needs congressional approval in order to last beyond Obama’s term and that without that step Iran will be left a “mere executive agreement” between Obama and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.


Republicans are not only making common cause with hardliners in Iran, they’re also undermining our President’s capacity to deal with foreign governments and compromising his authority as Commander-in-Chief.

In so doing, they’re jeopardizing the safety and security of the United States.

“In my forty-five years of political involvement, I don’t remember any act by a major party that comes as close as the Republicans’ recent actions to what might be called treason” says Robert Reich, Former Member of President Clinton Cabinet and Professor at UC Berkeley.


THE LETTER

There’s a charming naiveté to the open letter [PDF] by 47 Republican senators that condescendingly seeks to explain features of the U.S. constitutional system to Iran’s leaders that they otherwise “may not fully understand.”

The missive warns that, with respect to “your nuclear negotiations with our government … any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress” could be revoked by the next president “with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.”



https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ement/NKQnpJS9

[Captain Obvious]

[Captain Obvious]

I was going to sign it, because I'm a sport like that.

But I noticed the "add your email to our mailing list" and thought "yeah, I get it now".

Trolling for suckers, there's no shortage of them on the interwebs.

[Peter1469]

Emails from the wrong account? Huge deal.

Circumventing and trying to sabotage nuclear proliferation agreement years in the making? No big deal.

An MOU is not used in serious negotiation- they are used for administrative matters. If Obama was serious he would be negotiating a binding treaty. He isn't it seems.

Try harder next time.