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  • Yes: Republicans and Democrats should dominate

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  • Yes: Republicans and Democrats should have to debate the Libertarian, Constitution and Green parties

    7 63.64%
  • No: Abolish political parties

    5 45.45%
  • Other

    1 9.09%
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    Quote Originally Posted by PolWatch View Post
    I think we could start with electing a candidate for each state. Then, perhaps have regional elections and then national elections. I think we would have more of a chance of getting someone who really knew what the voters wanted and would have had the advantage of creating winning platform based on those wants. The voters would know that their vote really did matter.
    Would you mind just letting the electoral college pick the president and leave the rest of us out of it?

    Believe me, i can manage without going through the meat grinder called the selection process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Right View Post
    Duly noted, but iustia's point, and I agree, (if we're on the same wavelength) is that what we have now ain't working very well. For example, @PolWatch, @Safety, myself and others could sit around and shoot the breeze all day about many issues and agree on many if not most. Throw in the polar issues and sometimes we'd rather walk away than talk. If I'm wrong, correct me.
    Undoubtedly true. Extreme issues separate people, but should extreme or polarizing issues dominate the conversation. Are they the most important issues or just the most emotionally compelling issues to people?
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    If we tried the state and then regional candidates I suspect it would end up being very much like the electoral college system.
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    We should perhaps be asking, in the spirit of the OP, if this liberal mechanism of party politics has resulted in something beneficial for the majority of citizens. That seems doubtful considering the dismay so often expressed on this forum.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I think four or five is probably optimal. More than that and you are ending up with single issue parties.
    I don't see how limiting it to 4 or 5 parties would stop corruption or misrepresentation. How would a two party system really be changed that much by a couple more parties?

    If people are that concerned about single issues, who are we to tell them those issues aren't valid enough for another party?

    The people that aren't concerned with single issues can vote for the live and let live parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerilla View Post
    I don't see how limiting it to 4 or 5 parties would stop corruption or misrepresentation. How would a two party system really be changed that much by a couple more parties?

    If people are that concerned about single issues, who are we to tell them those issues aren't valid enough for another party?

    The people that aren't concerned with single issues can vote for the live and let live parties.
    Corruption and misrepresentation occurs when politicians are more concerned with getting elected than about representing their constituents.
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    We need political parties so we can get a fairly good idea what a candidate believes in.

    It is not a fool proof method though. Barack Obama ran as a Dem. In reality he was much further left than that. If he had ran as a Socialist or whatever, he most likely would not have won.

    Political parties are a necessary evil. The Congress is made up of a major party and a minor party. Without that identity, the balance of powers would be compromised.

    I would like to see the campaign funding and contribution rules changed. They shouldn't be able to buy an election by outspending the competition. No foreign contributions allowed. Everyone vetted thoroughly, period.

    Lobbyists need to be reeled in. There is too much "bargaining money" floating around our politicians to secure their vote. It breeds corruption.

    And now my pipe dream....I would like to see the media report fairly, not biased partisan reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Corruption and misrepresentation occurs when politicians are more concerned with getting elected than about representing their constituents.
    Which is characteristic of virtually every liberal democracy. So back to the OP: why do we retain it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Which is characteristic of virtually every liberal democracy. So back to the OP: why do we retain it?
    Probably because any kind of dictatorship is an even worse option.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    I always thought that the best way to elect our leaders was to have them apply in essay form

    Stating not only what they want to accomplish, but how they are going to do it, how much it will cost and the expected results

    No face, name, skin color or gender, just a list of what they are going to do.

    Vote for what you like the best and then you get to meet the person for the first time when they win.

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