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    Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    The incoming hope-and-change Obama administration advanced the narrative that at home and abroad it cared far more for people than profits. Its “reset” diplomacy (all in the past “bad,” all in the future “good”) was supposed to be about multilateral consensus instead of Bush-era unilateral hubris. But after almost 30 months, it is now clear that in our dealings abroad values like human rights, constitutional government, free-market liberal economics, and transparency do not matter much to the Obama administration.

    In all the acrimony over the Israeli-Palestinian open sore — forget disputed lands, past history, even the matter of an ally versus an entity that is in league with our enemies — no one in the Obama administration has once reminded the American people that Israel is a liberal democracy that respects the rights of minorities, women, homosexuals, and the “other” in a manner that is still impossible on the West Bank or in Gaza. That Israel is prosperous and wealthy without natural resources in a way that most of its neighbors are not means little — and why that is so means nothing at all.


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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    I don't think it's a matter of societal liberalism with BO, but more of a leftist populist position.
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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    I really don't see Obama as a liberal. I'd say Clinton and even Bush the Senior (not to mention all Republican presidents before Reagan) are to the left of Obama. A centrist in the 80s and 90s would be considered a lefty today.

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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
    I really don't see Obama as a liberal. I'd say Clinton and even Bush the Senior (not to mention all Republican presidents before Reagan) are to the left of Obama. A centrist in the 80s and 90s would be considered a lefty today.
    Obama is whatever his voting constituents want him to be.
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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
    I really don't see Obama as a liberal. I'd say Clinton and even Bush the Senior (not to mention all Republican presidents before Reagan) are to the left of Obama. A centrist in the 80s and 90s would be considered a lefty today.
    Obama is whatever his voting constituents want him to be.
    100% wrong. He's whatever his campaign contributors want him to be. Something like 80% of all donors >500k have some connection to government jobs / contracts.

    The people who voted for him by and large don't follow politics, and without a pivotal issue or an engaging GOP candidate, will result in him getting elected again. I'm going to predict a low turn out and Obama getting elected by a slight margin, along with some suspicious voting irregularities just like when he got elected the first time and Dubya in his two turns. No change here.

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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
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    I really don't see Obama as a liberal. I'd say Clinton and even Bush the Senior (not to mention all Republican presidents before Reagan) are to the left of Obama. A centrist in the 80s and 90s would be considered a lefty today.
    Obama is whatever his voting constituents want him to be.
    100% wrong. He's whatever his campaign contributors want him to be. Something like 80% of all donors >500k have some connection to government jobs / contracts.

    The people who voted for him by and large don't follow politics, and without a pivotal issue or an engaging GOP candidate, will result in him getting elected again. I'm going to predict a low turn out and Obama getting elected by a slight margin, along with some suspicious voting irregularities just like when he got elected the first time and Dubya in his two turns. No change here.
    Absolutely not wrong.

    He campaigned on "hope and change", selling that snake oil on his numerous campaign stops.

    Everyone fell for it hook, line and sinker - he was elected.

    No doubt he will go on that same snake oil tour, telling everyone he's whatever they want him to be. Most of them will fall for it hook, line and sinker again because you can't teach idiots new tricks.
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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    No, read it again. He is not what his voting constituents want him to be, he says what his voting constituents want to hear. If any of them paid attention (and some are) they'd realize the difference.

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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
    No, read it again. He is not what his voting constituents want him to be, he says what his voting constituents want to hear. If any of them paid attention (and some are) they'd realize the difference.
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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by conley View Post
    No, read it again. He is not what his voting constituents want him to be, he says what his voting constituents want to hear. If any of them paid attention (and some are) they'd realize the difference.
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    Re: Obama’s Illiberal Foreign Policy

    obama is a narcissistic fascist who really has no clue as to what he is doing....recognized as a fool at home and abroad, he is a forty plus year old adolescent, wrestling with issues of abandonment and racial identity....possessing a radical marxist 60s view of this nation and armed with a 1930s grab bag of so called solutions....basically he is a man at war with himself and his country, seeking to depreciate this nation in the name of collective retribution....

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